The Other Two Assailants At Wonderland
At this web site by CJ, which looks long abandoned… there is a Wonderland movie review, a bit of a back-story and some other info gleaned from a few interviews that he did. He is a DJ or something in L.A., I could not find much info about “CJ”. Please post in the comments if you know. Localarts was the first to tell me about “Danny”… obviously a brother of Greg Diles. If Nash called in mob help, then maybe Danny, Joe McLean and another goon helped out that night. There would have been no remorse in a payback hit like this. It would have been and was…brutal. Mob guys are known to saw up their old friends into little pieces…so.
Read on…
Bill Margold Phone Interview – 04/25/2005
I called the 11 year-old number I had in my BladeRunner Organizer and lo ‘n behold it didn’t work worth a damn. So I splurged a whole 2 minutes and typed his name into Google, clicked his site and sent him email, reminding him of our glorious day in 1994 with Danyl Cheeks. He called me immediately and we chatted for a while. He didn’t remember me, but it didn’t matter. We had a lot to talk about.
“The problem with Eddie Nash is the son-of-a-bitch won’t die!” he told me in his raspy Jewish voice. “Ok, what concerns me are the ‘unidentified others’ who participated in the murders. There were two others besides Diles and Holmes. Know who they were?”
“A guy named ‘Danny’ and…hey you’re right.” I admitted, overlooking the obvious. “How did I overlook those two loose ends?”
“Easy. They were never identified. They were brought in by the mob.” Margold said.
I loved all of the Starwood stories posted in the comments section. Keep ’em coming!
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dreamweaverjenn 8:47 am on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
I guess it still blows my mind that Nash was acquitted AND he’s still alive.
krislyn 9:07 am on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
You know what they say. Evil never dies lol.
localarts 10:15 am on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
LOL. Eddie may never die. Ed’s power was far reaching at that time but once the feds got involved it was pretty much over.
dreamweaverjenn 4:57 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
Lol, there will be cockroaches, twinkies, my grandmother, and Eddie.
krislyn 2:02 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
who is Danny? i know greg and samuel but is danny a alias for samuel? i must have skipped something.
the name is familiar because in the movie ward asks holmes in the hotel room “did u see danny or greg in the car” and holes replied ” i didnt see greg i didnt see eddie when i left. ” i didnt know who he was referencing i assumed danny was the alias for samuel. so hes a real guy?
John 2:22 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
I know! Danny was mentioned. I can only assume it was straight from the poluce file or Samuel went by Danny. Samuel died in 2002.
krislyn 2:43 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
also the guy in the beginning david lind talks about walking into the house. cherokee sent me walking. …. then later everyone wanted to know who tje “throw betamax ” guy was . in the movie before the robbery at nash billy tells mccourt honk twice if u see anyine he says got it boss or whatever. in the wonderland script i posted all three of these characters were named cherokee. maybe cherokee wasnt a real person just a character filling in different blanks of people in the movie???? and so tracy gets no credits rights cause of that?
John 3:07 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
I wish they had consulted with Tracy McCourt for the movie in addition to Dawn and Sharon. I think he could have helped with character development on the gang. That was the big gripe by critics per se “a lot of empty people who are dead”. Also, the film would hace been better without Val Kilmer. That guy Cumberbatch would have been better LOL
localarts 5:06 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
There was another guy that used to frequent 8763, his name was Mike. Tracy McCourt makes references to this in his testimony. As a matter of fact “Mike” was one of the few people allowed in after the robbery and that’s only because Ronnie new the guy quite well. Mike could be “Cherokee” but I’ve always thought it was Tracy McCourt.
krislyn 2:44 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
just a thought
krislyn 4:06 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
I think Val did a goodjob. he did good as Jim M as well. the funny thing i read that Val kept a diary of his wpnderland experience even things he obtained through his research it is noted he never showed it publicly. i sent a fb message asking to see it or if it exists lol yet no replies
dreamweaverjenn 4:56 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
I read somewhere he turned it into some kind of exhibit? Not sure. I thought Val did ok as Holmes but was awesome as Jim Morrison. I have to google “Cumberbatch”. I’m a little slow on the uptake sometimes, lol.
Bonnie Brae 5:19 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
check out the first 15 minutes – it’s just so gripping!
John 8:26 am on May 23, 2013 Permalink |
Awesome! I love the narrator!
scabiesoftherat 11:13 pm on May 24, 2013 Permalink |
The criminals in that case were certifiable morons. But the neighbors were even more stupid than the criminals. Think about it. When you go to commit murder, you want to be clandestine,…so what does he do? He fires a gun in a residetial neighborhood, outside, to kill his first victim. He fires four times in the driveway with a 9 shot .22 pistol. He just dumped half his ammo load when he didn’t even know how many people were even up at the house….and they took no spare bullets because they were gonna cut them up. They missed the guesthouse houseguest all together….who happened to be about 50 yards away from the killing, in a completely lit house playin’ music with the volume controls being set between 4 and 5 on a Simon And Garfunkel album. That’s how stupid the criminals are. The neighbors raise the stakes in the stupid realm. The neighbors were going to bed at midnight,. This is the house closest to the Tate house. As the wife gets into bed, she hears gunshots coming from nextdoor. When questioned by the police she tells the she “heard gunshots coming from next door….but I didn’t hear anything further,…so I went to sleep” If she was a normal person and not a pod, she woulda done what any normal thinking person woulda done. She woulda called the police and, since Benedict Canyon is a high tax bracket, they would have been there in say, four minutes. The killers say the murders took 40 minutes. He shot the gun as they entered the premisis. Phone call, four to six minutes till police arrive. They walk them off in handcuffs. All because some neighbor didn’t hear anything further after hearing gunshots. Not hearing anything after gunshots usually denotes that the bullet hit it’s target. It’s what you would really expect to hear at midnight when a gun is fired.
Starlets in the ninth month of pregnancy do have that jones to go out and randomly fire guns at midnight in their driveway, don’t they?
Geez.
Great post, Bonnie. The artistic flavor that curt gentry gives the first half of the book is right up there with Capote’s, “In Cold Blood”. Match for match. His prose hold their own. I was kinda sad to see him go when Bugliosi introduced himself. Gentry shoulda written the entire book with Bugliosi simply contributing. Then you WOULD have had a contender for In Cold Blood,…and, dare I say, even better
Robert Foxworthy was the narrator. Boyfriend of the late Elizabeth Montgomery (of Bewitched fame, of course),….but also the lead in the movie, “The legend of Lizzie Borden.” (1975 made for tv movie)
I had stayed in that house. It’s now a bed and breakfast. I slept in Lizzie’s room one night and then in the guestroom where the stepmother got it. In that room was the dress that Elizabeth Montgomery wore for her trial in the movie. Too cool, man. I watched the movie on my ipod while in the dark in the murder room.
One of those moments that gives you “cause to pause”…..and when the nervous energy makes you stuff ho-ho’s into your pie hole at an alarming rate. LOL
Bonnie Brae 8:49 am on May 25, 2013 Permalink
I Love Robert Foxworth. After listening to this which my friend got from the public library in cassette form and let me borrow. I wanted to find out everything I could about him but then got lazy. Anyway – RF does such a great job narrating. He really pulls you in. That is awesome that you stayed in the Lizzie Borden house. I have always wanted to go there. But since MA is nowhere near me and I will probably never get there, I am going to settle for going on Scott Michaels Helter Skelter tour this summer. 44th year anniversary.
I too found it mind boggling that the neighbors could hear screams then gun shots then go to sleep. Little did they know Manson had ordered them to do the thing to the entire neighborhood.
Also, the police received one call that reported a woman screaming and the second that reported hearing gun shots. Someone commented “I hope we don’t have a murder on our hands”. Times have changed and I like to think that the police have learned from their mistake. But what a big mistake to have to live with. Not investigating those reports.
krislyn 7:06 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
the manson murders were just crazy. manson practically gre up in confinement jail was nothing to him. i think some people how a brainwashing power and even so still no excuse to kill. this was a solved case and these people admit they were brainwashed and said they deserve to b in jail.
krislyn 7:09 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
yeah i watched the movie in subtitles..each of those characters is named”cherokee” prob a character created to be various people
krislyn 7:14 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
someone said Rons corpse is in the opening credits . . . what part?
krislyn 7:18 pm on May 22, 2013 Permalink |
how do i post a pic i took from my camera?
krislyn 4:18 pm on May 23, 2013 Permalink |
Is anyone into the club kids murder? michael alig and the club kids. this was early 80s to early 90s . it was tje birth of club kids who are ravers. in nyc it was a big movement. michael alig should b getting out of jail soon for the murder of his friend anddrug dealer angel melendez. if u havent the way this murder went down is just gruesom. i vosited michaels apt building in nyc. peter gatien was a big target in his nightclubs least he wasnt like eddie. reading news papers clips books by james st james is just radical. seth green did amazing in party monster. if u watch the Shockumentary its great even james does the commentary. interesting time in NYC. look into it if u havent
John 9:43 am on May 24, 2013 Permalink |
Sounds interesting, I will google it.
Darcy 2:48 pm on July 9, 2013 Permalink |
The book by james st. James is excellent as well lived in nyc during that era wasn’t a club kid, more of a stoner lol
dreamweaverjenn 7:43 pm on July 9, 2013 Permalink
I tried to watch the movie but I just couldn’t get into it. Maybe I was interrupted too many times. lol
dreamweaverjenn 7:47 pm on May 23, 2013 Permalink |
I will do that. Sounds interesting. Thanks!
krislyn 12:35 pm on May 24, 2013 Permalink |
some people are into it some arent because of the “lifestyle” but it did alot in that era . it was the begiining of raids. theres lots of books interviews michael musto is a great source. looms like another film is creating now thatmichaels out 2014 .i have alot of randomness ive interviewd w a few members of the club kids. u can you tube reallife parties. it was just crazy. i got lots of research data on that if u get into it and want to see more
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