Holmes Discussed In Gay Pimp’s Tell-All Book
First of all, this book has some terrible reviews. Second, the facts and claims about Holmes are way off, based on what a true Wonderland aficionado now knows about John Holmes. Holmes was not in tons of gay porno movies. Well, read it for yourself. This whole sub-chapter on JH sounds like fiction in order to fluff up (no pun) this guy’s book.
Full Service: My Adventures in Hollywood and the Secret Sex Lives of the Stars
by Scotty Bowers.
Note: George Cukor was a legendary Hollywood director. He died in 1983 at about 85 years old. Thus, it sounds fishy to me.
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John 6:52 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink |
For the title of this post, I wanted to convey that the pimp catered to gay customers, not that he was gay. I don’t know if he was or not. “Not that there’s anything wrong with it” (Seinfeld)
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jimmy---chicago 6:29 pm on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
Holmes could not get fully hard even before his introduction to coke .I wish we could get some answers from dawn or susan his wife about their sex life .What was their first reaction to his 14 inches
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criticextraordinaire 5:36 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink |
Cass Paley said that he once saw John with full wood and “it was scary”.
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Jill C. Nelson 9:46 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink |
I always find this observation to be interesting. On camera, Holmes was usually able to achieve a full erection — the difference being that because of the size of his equipment, it pointed downward instead of up when he was fully erect. His first film with Bob Chinn titled ‘Johnny Wadd’ shows Holmes completely hard — for him, and it is scary stuff. Chinn said that the only time he remembers John having any difficulty was in the last film they made together, Prisoner of Paradise, and that was because of his coke habit. If you take a look at any of the cameos Holmes did in the 80’s for his and Amerson’s company Penguin, it’s scary still.
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criticextraordinaire 6:01 pm on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
That whole story is complete BS. He says “I did not arrange tricks for John once he became a big porn star”. Problem is… John did not get involved with drugs until AFTER he hit it big in porn. This guy’s story has about as much veracity as that lady who said she was hiding in Ron Launius’ closet during the Wonderland murders.
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John 7:43 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink |
Yes, and I doubt John was doing gay tricks in the 60s.
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John 2:17 pm on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
I just think that John was not turning any gay tricks until his serious coke habit, in the early 80s – maybe the very late 70s. If John did attempt turn a trick with the elderly Cukor, then how much was that going to net him to buy coke? $200? And is an 80+ year old man doing coke too? Lots of questions.
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Jim 12:48 pm on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
I think Jill has it exactly right with her quote of Holmes “If you buy me, I’m sexual.” I really don’t think Holmes even enjoyed sex (with anyone) in the latter part of his life. It was just simply a vehicle to get money from people so he could finance his out of control drug habit. Kind of like when somebody steals to support a drug habit. It’s not that they necessarily enjoy the physical act of stealing; it’s just that stealing is the only way they can continue to finance the habit.
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dreamweaverjenn 11:32 am on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
I can’t help but be amused. First, having grown up in a military family this guy would have been beaten to a pulp (no pun intended). I’m not saying it’s right and I have tons of gay friends and family members but a marine back in those days???? Very hard to believe and therefore it was hard for me to believe anything else this guy had to say. I realize it COULD have happened but I’m just having a hard time believing this guy. Sorry, just my observation. ;o)
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Jill C. Nelson 10:57 am on February 19, 2014 Permalink |
The only comment I can make about this is that when Jennifer and I scoured all resources for evidence of Holmes’s gay loops and films, we came up (mostly) empty. For the book, we screened and reviewed the few gay films/loops we were able to get our hands on – but we concluded, based upon not only our own research but also by talking to people in the know — such as people like Joel Sussman, who is probably Holmes’s oldest friend in the business, there just isn’t that much gay material out there. In Holmes’s own words (told to us by one of Holmes’s closest 1980s friends, Buck Adams), when asked if he was bisexual, Holmes replied, “Yeah, I’m bisexual. If you buy me, I’m sexual.” That statement pretty well summed it up.Holmes was not gay. but he was an opportunist.
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