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  • John 11:48 am on October 25, 2021 Permalink | Reply
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    Don’t Worry, It’s Not Our Jess 

    The other one is still alive. However, the real Jess #1 did try to sue a long time ago for using his nom d’plume. Not sure of the outcome.

  • John 3:07 pm on September 23, 2021 Permalink | Reply
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    Wonderland Murders podcast by Darkness Radio with guest author Michael Connelly 


  • John 8:46 am on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 8763 wonderland, LMFAO lived at Wonderland,   

    Candid Videos Of The Wonderland House 

    The pop group, LMFAO, have been featured on the blog before, since they lived in the Wonderland House about 4 or 5 years ago. I have not shared these particular videos however.

    In the following videos, you can see the interior of the house a bit better, the layout, etc. I could not find one of the backyard area.

    Warning: These guys are idiots.

    Something about that house has people half-dressed!

    And a video made out in the street:


    • bobabooie 8:18 am on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Kind of reminds me of the Anne Frank house- surprisingly nice inside.


    • localarts 2:59 pm on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Only those guy could have defaced 8763. Where are Holmes, Diles and the rest of the killers when you really need them!


    • Bobby 1:50 am on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Well John I must say, “these guys are idiots” is a MAJOR understatement! Have to agree with Scabies, but I’d have been real happy to hear that the ghost of Ron or Billy had kicked them down that stairwell.
      Sure would be real nice to see Critic’s dream come to life rather than having to witness these asshats desecrate this sacred site.
      Is it just me or does the taller guy (middle video) resemble John Holmes just a tiny little bit?.. same sorta jaw-line and teeth. Holmes however got more pussy than these two combined ever will 😉 They should just stick to dry humping doors, dressing in their ‘ironic’ 80’s clown costumes & producing shitty disposable dance music. Rant over.


      • criticextraordinaire 7:22 pm on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “Asshat… out the window!”


    • criticextraordinaire 6:06 pm on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Man, I wish I lived n LA and had the money. I’d buy that house and restore it to its former glory, and run it as a Wonderland-themed B&B. 🙂


      • scabiesoftherat 11:22 pm on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’d go to that. I wish they would have done that at Sharon Tate’s house instead of tearing the thing down.
        The guy in the middle video? Couldn’t you just picture Josh Lucas grabbing him by the shoulders and chucking him through the second floor window like he did with that stereo component? I could.

        Very, very easily….


  • John 7:44 am on October 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Truth Is A Slippery Eel In Wonderland 

    I like the style and well I think she did a good job. Most reviews pan the film, but not this time. The only “truth” in Wonderland… was that there was murder. Mike Elliott had written a screenplay titled “Wonderland Ave.”. He is given a Special Thanks credit in Wonderland. I wonder what his script was like? Someone could easily make another movie about this story.

    His body is a wonderland.

    His body is a wonderland.

    Truth Is A Slippery Eel In Wonderland.

    by Cindy Fuchs. Philadelphia, http://www.citypaper.net. October 16, 2003 Issue.

    “John Holmes was the first porn star,” begins James Cox’s Wonderland. This is not exactly true; there were porn stars before and alongside Holmes, also known as Johnny B. Wadd and Big Jon Fallus, but none has achieved quite his notoriety. Mention of his name(s) evokes numbers — 14,000 women, 2,500 porn films, 14 inches (or 13, or 15), two wives, $3,000 a day, 50 Valiums at a time and, most horrifically, four brutal murders.

    This last figure occasions Cox’s mostly strange and lurid account of the contradictory stories concerning Holmes’ involvement in the 1981 Wonderland murders. That is, the gory bludgeonings of a group of Holmes’ acquaintances at 8763 Wonderland Ave. in Los Angeles: drug dealer Ron Launius (Josh Lucas), his buddy, Billy Deverell (Tim Blake Nelson), Joy Miller (Janeane Garofalo) and Barbara Richardson (Natasha Gregson Wagner). Ron’s wife, Susan (Christina Applegate), suffered severe brain damage, and could never identify the killers. While these were presumably thugs sent by local gangster Adel Nasrallah, a.k.a. Eddie Nash (Eric Bogosian), as payback for the robbery of his home, the case was never solved and Holmes’ part was never determined. Charged and acquitted, Holmes died of AIDS-related illness at age 43 in 1988.

    One version of this story informs Paul Thomas Anderson’s Boogie Nights, in which Holmes, transformed into Dirk Diggler (Mark Wahlberg), appears a naive victim of his own ambitions and self-delusions. In Cox’s less rhapsodic recounting, Holmes (Val Kilmer) is a self-loving lout, coke addict and liar, seemingly unable to comprehend the destruction he brings to anyone in his vicinity. Wonderland begins when Holmes is past his porn prime, and endeavoring, sort of, to convince his beautiful teenage girlfriend, Dawn (Kate Bosworth), to come back to him; she’s tired of living in a series of scuzzy L.A. motels, and has run off with her Chihuahua, sheltered with a sputtering Good Samaritan, Sallie (Carrie Fisher), until her man comes by, drugs in hand.

    John’s entrance — lurching, hirsute, desperate — is almost startling, emphatically establishing his look and behavior for the rest of the film. Still caught up in his own legend, he’s jonesing for affection as much as for drugs or any other distraction. Dawn provides the reflection he needs, willing to see him as stud and supplier, lover and father figure. While the film takes a moment here to show the noisy urgency of their liaison (at this moment, on Sallie’s bathroom sink), it’s frankly uninterested in such acrobatics or in sex per se. They go through motions for a camera at low and close angles, cut into a semblance of jerky, anxious immediacy. Discovered by Sallie, they run off to John’s broken-down car, giddy and childish, Chihuahua in tow.

    If sex is not Wonderland‘s focus, neither is the extravagant violence to come. This despite the fact that the murder scene — videotaped by the police, the first time such evidence was introduced in court — is represented more than once in a Rashomon-ish hodgepodge. The first narration belongs to biker David Lind (Dylan McDermott), a friend of Launius’ whose girlfriend, Barbara, is among the dead. Another version is John’s interview with a cop, which takes the form of a weirdly ineffective seduction, hinting at his previous performance skills as well as their onetime friendship, apparently premised on John’s celebrity.

    Still another comes late in the film, offered reluctantly in flashbacks by Holmes’ wife, Sharon (a stunning Lisa Kudrow), in which he shows up at her place in shock and bloodied clothing on the night of the crime; she plainly resists being carried along by the tidal wave of John Holmes’ colossal ego, but finds herself drawn to him and to Dawn (an epilogue reveals that the women were lifelong friends, following their involvements with Mr. Wadd).

    All of these stories resemble each other in basic organization, in Launius’ crew’s infraction and Nash’s retaliation. But John’s participation, as snively snitch or sadistic killer or some entity in between, is never determined absolutely. And though Wonderland does present all sorts of explicit and harrowing images, it really is about the inability to represent something so elusive as truth, even when it might be reduced to something so apparently irreducible as bodies — sexed, dead, absolutely pornographic.

    It’s on this point, the exceedingly unpoetic ambiguity of experience, as it’s remembered, willed or narrated, that Wonderland makes the most sense. Though it spends some time introducing the miserable victims (junkies and pretenders, they incarnate the bottom John has hit more than they are detailed characters), as well as John’s own self-inflations, the movie is about loss and perpetual transience rather than certainty.

    Cox and Captain Mauzner’s script — drawn from an unproduced screenplay by Todd Samovitz and D. Loriston Scott, as well as interviews with the real Dawn and Sharon, and various Holmes legends — offers no conventionally sympathetic characters or resolution. There’s no truth in this true crime, only the fictions that sustain Hollywood, and all of its metaphorical relations. It’s a grisly business.


    Directed by James Cox A Lions Gate release Opens Friday at Ritz at the Bourse

    • Jill C. Nelson 8:58 am on October 7, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Jennifer definitely did not offer Ed Nash any amount of money for an interview but somehow, I doubt that was a determining factor for Nash. At the time we were working on the project, Jennifer had taken an 18 month hiatus to concentrate solely on the book after graduating with a Math degree from U of M so she wasn’t in a position to pay for interviews. In the end, we only paid for two. As a rule, the people we interviewed were interested in setting the record straight. 😉


    • Jill C. Nelson 7:08 am on October 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Bobby, Jennifer Sugar contacted Nash’s attorney in July of 2006 for an interview with Nash. It was a Friday afternoon and he told her he’d talk to Ed and get back to her with an answer after the weekend. On the Monday, Jennifer spoke with Nash’s attorney and he said that after Nash had mulled her offer over the weekend, he respectfully declined — he was enjoying his retirement. I have no idea about Nash’s health only that when this occurred, I believe Ed lived in Tarzana but I’m not certain about that.


      • criticextraordinaire 8:15 am on October 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, Eddie lived in Tarzana back then. After having sold the Seven Seas building a few years ago for quite a lot of money, I imagine he just decided to kick back a little.


      • Bobby 4:20 am on October 7, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the info guys. Well, I guess that’s that then.. Eddie will be taking all his dirty little secrets to his grave. Do you know if Jennifer Sugar offered a large sum of money to get this exclusive interview? If that was the case it’s obvious that money wasn’t an issue and he’d much rather preserve his pride and just keep out of the limelight “enjoying his retirement”. Ha, prison time aside it seems that after making all his money in his heyday the better part of his life has been an informal “retirement”! I still find it absolutely incredible that he’s still alive after all these years considering he was in pretty bad health at them time of the trial. Guess he’s pickled his body with hard drugs the same way Keith Richards has.


    • localarts 1:05 pm on October 5, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t know if there has ever been any kind of formal sit down interview with Eddie. A lot of people have tried but to my knowledge there has only been a few back and forth questions over the phone with various reporters or journalist over the years. A Barbara Walters Special featuring Adel Nasrallah would set nielsen rating records!!


    • Jill C. Nelson 3:20 pm on October 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      It’s not familiar. Holmes did use John Rey a little in the very early days and John Duval, inspired by Robert Duvall, one of his favourite mainstream actors.

      Jennifer Sugar interviewed James Cox early into the book project and made notes from their conversation. Interestlingly, unlike every other person we spoke with, Cox wouldn’t grant her permission to record their conversation.

      The review above is very well written with good insights.


      • Bobby 11:50 am on October 5, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Jill, did you (or anyone you know of) ever try to get an interview out of Eddie Nash? Do you know if he’s in declining health considering he has a live in nurse.. (if I’m not mistaken)? In a way he holds the last pieces of the puzzle and it’s a real shame that he won’t talk but I guess he’s always held his cards very close to his chest. Unfortunately he’s not going to be around much longer, that’s for sure.. It would be nice to hear him chime in on some real softball questions like what he thought of the film and stuff like that. Hell, any peep from him would be good! 😉


    • criticextraordinaire 11:38 am on October 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t recall John performing in anything as “Johnny B. Wadd” ?????


  • John 9:16 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 8763 wonderland, death house, rachel rybicki,   

    Ojai Woman Owns Death House – Landlady Shocked At Slayings 

    I am told that Ojai is where Oprah has a house, and it is a nice area with weird zoning and building codes. So, this landlady had/has some dough. She makes some nice statements about Joy, along with shock and awe. In the article earlier this week, Rachel stated that she had to see a shrink after this ordeal. When the cops are done with their investigation, the gory clean up of the crime scene is up to the owner. I wonder who she hired to do that messy work?

    I was mistaken in a post a few months ago about Joy having breast implants, she had not had the surgery yet and I misinterpreted the coroner’s report.

    I like how Joy was “a very nice lady….never nasty… even when I didn’t want to renew the lease”.

    The Press-Courier. July 3, 1981.

    The Press-Courier. July 3, 1981.

    • localarts 8:31 am on June 7, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      LOL. I would tell Barbara to walk out on the balcony and tell Holmes and Diles that the gang are on their way back to Eddies for another score!


    • John W 8:09 pm on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      At 2:38am on July 1, I would pull up to Wonderland in my 81 Celica ST coupe and leave the engine running. I then ring the buzzer repeatedly. When Billy (or Barbara) answered, I would say “Landshark”.


    • localarts 7:31 pm on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      If you could some how go back in time to late June 81, Would you do? I would pick up the phone and tell the LAPD there was a robbery in progress at Dona Lola Dr. Just image the scene. Nash, Diles, Launius. Deverell, Lind and McCourt leaving the cul da sac in a black and white.


    • Bobby 11:28 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      She seems like a pretty cool landlord. I wonder what it was she saw that “appeared odd” to her? Unsavoury types slumped on the couch on a heroin nod? Billy getting about butt naked save for his sporty white tube socks? That strange “brown matter” smeared throughout the kitchen? Ron playing cowboy on the balcony with his antique guns? So many questions, the mind boggles.. lol


      • John 11:51 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply



      • localarts 12:32 pm on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Probably all of the above and of course Vlick’s crew. I wonder if Rybicki ever said to herself ” what the hell is Johnny Wadd Holmes doing here”?


      • John 4:09 pm on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        This is what appeared odd to her: Billy strutting around in white jeans, no shirt while eating peaches and cottage cheese, Barbara slipping Dave some more pixie stick sugar on the couch in order to ease the heroin trip and Ron’s roach clips hanging all over every lamp cord in the house. LOL


      • dreamweaverjenn 8:08 pm on June 7, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Lmao! yeah, she does sound like she was pretty cool. I am picturing the scene above as Bobby described it. Cracking up. Especially Billy wearing nothing but his sexy tube socks. He must have had profit sharing on those.


    • localarts 10:14 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Remember reading this some years ago. If Ms. Rybicki had decided not to renew that lease, Wonderland would have never happened! It’s all Rybicki’s fault. She enabled Miller and the gang to continue their drug trafficking way’s. Shame on Rachel……………I’m only joking of course.


      • John W 7:21 pm on June 6, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I know, would not be the same if the murders occurred at some apts on Smith St… however Holmes would not be able to set up the killings as easily. A locked compound also had its setbacks unless u have a panic room.


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