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  • John 9:34 pm on March 27, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    UPDATE – The Oxygen special titled “Wonderland Murderland” airs this FRIDAY night primetime. Check local listings. Mysteries & Scandals.

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    Wonderland put an end to the so-called fun loving 1970s, and kicked off the forever dark night…that was the 80s. So get a cup of tea, tuck the kids in – you could be here a while 😉

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    • localarts 4:11 pm on March 28, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I’ll probably watch it. However, I’m not sure the Oxygen network can reveal anything we don’t already know. As a matter of fact, I would be willing to bet that John and the collective members of this forum know more than they do! This blog is the equivalent of a “Wonderland Graduate Degree”. Once you’ve been here, theres really no need to search anywhere else…

    • John 7:14 am on March 29, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Scott Thorson is not referred to by name in the Mysteries & Scandals episode. I just watched it. That is because, and like many of the surviving Manson family who aren’t in prison, feels he should be paid, as if his name and story, are a cashable commodity. They used to be, nobody gives a flip any longer. That Candelabra film was good, but did nothing to lessen his ego.

      The episode on Oxygen was a surface piece: no new photos, no talk of victims lives, peripheral motives, side characters, the subculture, the things my book digs into. Tom Lange looks, a bit older, and always wise. However, nobody knew Nash had died, but… we at the blog knew~ at least got whiffs back in 2014. At about the same time my friend was ringing Nash’s intercom buzzer at his Tarzana condo, only to hear the greeting play – it was a woman’s voice, with an accent – asking to please leave a message, and Eddie will get back to you. Little did we know, he was probably already gone. His last name means Victory of God in Arabic. The survivors and,the victors tell history’s story – and his will never properly be told, but I will try.

      Ten years ago, when asked about an interview to discuss Holmes life for the outstanding book “Inches”- the definitive story of John’s life – Nash said he would sleep on it over the weekend. The authors waited… Monday or Tuesday rolled around, and through his attorney, Nash, the one-time bit actor and stuntman and horseman… said, “No thanks.”

      • criticextraordinaire 7:00 pm on March 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I just hope that the Oxygen show does not turn into a one-dimensional character assassination of John Holmes. Seems to be a sport with some people, including those who were John Holmes “hangers on” while he lived, then stood in line to defame him after he died.

        If the show tells the story, the WHOLE story without devolving into a John Holmes bashfest, then OK.

        • criticextraordinaire 9:00 pm on March 30, 2018 Permalink

          Well Dawn seemed to take over a considerable piece of the show. You woulda thought she was one of the people at 8763. Even threw in a nice tear-jerker segment saying that Johnny Wadd was “no hero”. Thanks for the heads up.

          Ron Coen came across as a douche, as he did in the “Wadd” documentary. Bottom line he lost his case in court and Holmes was found innocent on all charges. Coen had one job to do and he didn’t get it done.

          Got a laugh where they kept showing a Mercedes Benz representing John making his various moves. What was it he was really driving? If I recall a Chevy Nova (or similar) that he and Dawn repainted with spray cans.

          No mention of Tracy McCourt. Bummer, he was the wheel-man for the Nash hit; you’d think he would get his due.

          The footage of Susan was the first I’ve ever seen. Nice. I just wish she would have done a bit for the show giving is background on Ronnie.

          A highlight was Soledad O’Brien as hostess. She’s as hot as ever.

      • John 11:22 am on April 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        The show was great though, overall. They touched on the lifestyle, music and what had become of the Canyon by 1981. But with 44 mins of running time, it’s a long case to discuss. I decided to grow a mustache since watching it, a prison stache though, so I can infiltrate Aryan Brotherhood on my Honda Gullwing with rainbow flag on the back waving in the breeze, find out more about David Lind. Tell them I used to run with Liberace, or Lee, as we called him!

        • criticextraordinaire 2:59 pm on April 1, 2018 Permalink

          If they think you were running with Lee, get ready for some SERIOUS jailyard abuse.

      • smauge 5:02 am on April 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I hope this show ends up on the internet at some point. I’m sure you’d post a link, John. Don’t think we’ll get it here in Australia. I’d love to see some vision of the mysterious Susan Launius!

        • John 8:59 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink

          You get to see and here her briefly on the witness stand. Very beautiful.

    • criticextraordinaire 8:46 am on March 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      It’s too bad that Rodger Jacobs is not still alive to see this. He deserved boatloads of credit for keeping the interest going in this case. I wonder if Oxygen finally managed to get Susan to break her silence?

      • John 9:36 am on March 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        At the time, when Rodger’s health was failing and he was living at the Hotel Cecil, or whereever it was, I wanted to go rescue him from his strife, let him come live with me. I’ll never forget his story, probably around 1985, when he took his last six bucks to the package store, and was walking back to his apartment near some freeway in LA – a govt issue sedan pulled up, a secret service guy asked to look in his paper bag, made a comment that he too was ready for a Heineken. Then, President Reagan’s motorcade zoomed by.

        • criticextraordinaire 5:07 pm on March 30, 2018 Permalink

          Yeah I always wanted to help Rodger too, even though I was fairly sure that things would end kinda they way they did. I did manage to make contributions to him at his blog, and recruited a few others to do the same. Eyes open, I knew the score. But still he was a human being and you want to help.

          I once got similarly accosted by the Secret Service. O’bama was making an unannounced visit to town. Couldn’t get out until his campaign bus was long gone. The town’s name? Beaver PA. 😀

      • John 11:10 am on March 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        Susan doesn’t remember anything, hardly remembered arriving at the house even. However, I’m like you, if only to hear her tell stories about Ronnie. But, I have interviewed three people who were close to him- hopefjlly a fourth, hopefully by this summer, and that is all in my book (I don’t post everything on the blog). If you have read Malice… Susan was traumatized by the Mexico business. It was bad. I have prayed for her and wish her well.

    • localarts 8:36 am on March 31, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      For someone who’s just discovering the story about Wonderland, I would recommend this show. It’s a good primer. The only mystery left is who swung the pipes.. We know Holmes, the Diles brothers; Greg & Danny or Samual were there. Speculation consist of Hovsep Mikaelian and members of the Russian mafia as the others. Weather or not Holmes murdered Launius is somewhat irrelevant. A far greater crime was John Holmes orchestrating the robbery of Ed Nash in the first place. That one single act changed so many peoples lives in a negative way. It was Devastating.

      • criticextraordinaire 1:04 pm on March 31, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        The one thing I saw in the show that I never knew before was Eddie showing up at John’s trial and sitting in the back. That had to have been sending John a MASSIVE signal to continue keeping his mouth shut. For all of John’s bad decisions, the one good decision he made was to keep his mouth shut re: Eddie, all the way to his grave.

        Well Holmes certainly deserves his charge of the blame for the robbery of Eddie Nash. But he dIdn’t hold a gun to Ronnie or David’s heads either. They bought on to the idea as a way to make a huge score, and probably as a big “FU” to a more established player in the drug business. If they had not been using as much dope as they sold, they (including Holmes) might have thought twice about the wisdom of robbing Eddie Nash and letting him live.

        One thing that I have always wondered about Eddie is why he never ordered a hit against the guy (Robert Garceau) who murdered his son (Telesforo Bautista). I would have thought that situation would have resulted in a retaliation that would make Wonderland look like a tea party.

        • localarts 4:04 pm on March 31, 2018 Permalink

          According to McCourts testimony, “everybody backed out” of the robbery at one point. Obviously, we don’t know what made them change their mind. I bet when Eddie walked in that court room, the lights flickered on & off, the clock on the wall stopped ticking & the moon passed in front of the sun. When the prince of darkness sends a message, he makes sure there’s no room for misinterpretation.

        • criticextraordinaire 4:17 pm on March 31, 2018 Permalink

          I think that Ron Coen would have wet his pants if he were ever confronted by Eddie.

        • John 10:33 am on April 1, 2018 Permalink

          When Eddie walked in to court, it was like that movie, Scanners, the DAs heads all exploded!

        • John 10:37 am on April 1, 2018 Permalink

          Ed showing up at the trial is mentioned in the Holmes bio INCHES by Jill Nelson and Jennifer Sugar. I believe they say Ed was there more than once! They have a great chapter on Wonderland. This business about Ed at Holmes trial has been posted on the blog before…btw.

    • localarts 11:28 am on April 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      From an intimidation and scare tactic standpoint, the 82 and 90 trial’s were a stark contrast in the demeanor of David Lind, thats for sure!

      • John 12:40 pm on April 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        David had two kids with his first wife in the 1960s. I was told he was estranged from both children, and they didn’t know them at all. In the early 90s with a different woman, his other son was born just after the Nash-Diles trials, and this kid was a toddler when his father died in ’95. I have seen a photo of him, and it looks like he is studying in school and making something of himself. Maybe Dave is looking down on him from that smoky, beer joint in the sky…

        If there’s a nice ending to this whole bloody mess, it’s that most of the relatives of the victims, near-victims and or perpetrators, have had remarkable and happy lives (from the ones I have met or talked to). I say “most”… I don’t know about all.

        (I haven’t forgotten about you, Kevin D., and will give you a shout soon so we can talk about your dad more. I am planning a month-long road trip out west this summer…. So Adam, please let your dad know I took a hiatus from the blog last year, but am now back and my book is a go!)

        Peace~

  • John 5:37 am on January 12, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Eddie Nash Goes On TV – Declares Innocence 

    Suspects who turn out to be guilty (Steven Avery) usually go on television to declare their innocence. And so did one Eddie Nash. Check him out here on NBC Channel 4 in Los Angeles: New suit and tie, hair nicely styled, a face lift? What a smooth talker. All this shit will be in my book, which is titled “Angels in the Smog – The True Story of the Wonderland Murders.”  Release date: TBD.

    I am still checking email, but I have to go MIA for a while from the blog because I have stuff to do. Thanks for your support and for visiting this blog, which has over 800,000 views in 4 years. Thank you for coming here for the truth.

    The Nash - doing what all killers do - go on TV

    The Nash, using his hands a lot … a sign of guilt?  LA New Times, May 2001. NBC Channel 4 LA.

    Legend has it that when the arrest warrant was issued for him after he was caught disobeying a judge’s order during the RICO investigation (talking on an illegal phone in his house to gangsters about marijuana), he was on vacation with that wife of his in China. What a long flight back knowing you’re going to jail. Poor Eddie. I hope the in-flight movie was not Shawshank, because everyone in prison is innocent. You didn’t know that?

    Although housed at a federal jail for the RICO beef, Eddie knew the LA county jail well, as he spent two years there awaiting his murder trials of the early 1990s – He was kept separated from the general population like OJ, Todd Bridges, Menendez brothers, Richard Ramirez, etc.

    Todd was neighbors in jail with Eddie but the two could not relate, although both killers got along well. “Ed was older than me, but a really nice guy”, said Todd. Bridges is a killer who got off thanks to Johnnie Cochran. Bridges suddenly forgot what happened that day when he killed that crackhead. My God, the damage that hack lawyer did to the justice system:

    But defense attorney Johnnie Cochran argued that Bridges was so intoxicated with cocaine at the time of the incident that even if he did shoot the victim, he could not have intended to kill him. Therefore, Cochran argued, Bridges should not be convicted.

    -LA Times, Nov 4, 1989

    Back to Nash…  “he got punked around pretty good by some black guys in there, he did not have a pleasant stay” (allegedly) while serving his three year sentence at Terminal Island Federal Prison in the early 2000s for his RICO activities. Included in the indictment was John Holmes (by then deceased), and three of Nash’s arson and fraud buddies from the old days, all of whom were stumbling bumbling idiots the Nash used as buffers.

    Terminal Island is the former home of Charles Manson, Tim Leary and heroin addict & jazz singer Anita O’Day, among others (Al Capone). The exterior of the prison is also featured in a few crime movies. Don’t drop the soap.

     
    • Bobby 5:39 am on January 22, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Ye-haw, great find John! Have you thought about getting NBC Channel 4 to dig up the footage for you? Don’t know the deal over there in the States but here in Oz you can get just about anything from the networks for a nominal fee. The fact that you can say you require it as research material for your book might get you a little further. Anyway, great to hear the book is coming along nicely – bravo. I like the new title but have to say I also thought the original “Chasing the Dragon” was pretty rock solid and had a very seedy/more compelling feel to it. I’m sure you have very good reasons for changing it though.. keen to find out. take care mang, Bobby PS: When will we see those new photos of Ronnie? 😉

      • John 5:32 am on January 24, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Bobby for the kind words. The original title was too common and too many books of all genres already have that title.

        • Gayle 12:30 am on January 26, 2016 Permalink

          I agree. I like the new title.

  • John 12:42 pm on February 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Real Eddie Nash? 

    There will always be speculation about Eddie Nash, what he was really like, etc. I’ve touched on that topic before and every so often I get an email or see a post on YouTube or the Wonderland Wikipedia “Talk” page with comments like “You didn’t even know Eddie, he was awesome”. Or, “…he paid his employees top dollar and rewarded loyalty to good workers”, and so on. A few have claimed that “they invaded his home, they deserved what they got! I would have done the same thing to those dopers”. I can just see Ed thinking post-robbery that “my life has come to this? I’m  a fucking loser” LOL. He was quite pissed off! as Detective Tom Lange told Julia Negron.

    So Ed had some good qualities. I don’t doubt that a bit. Just read the blog posts from Lee who worked at the Starwood. If we look at this excerpt from John Gilmore’s book, “Scary Monsters and Super Freaks”, we get a clear view of the Nash from the late 50s and early 60s era, when he owned the hot dog stand and before he became co-owner of PJ’s Night Club (this location later became the Starwood in the 1970s). I think that in between owning the hot dog stand and PJ’s, Eddie also owned and ran a Lebanese Cafe.

    However, in all of the famous articles and books about Wonderland, nobody ever mentions his marriage and family life. Legs McNeil touches on it via an interview with club owner, Chris Cox, but there are no details. So if Ed met John Holmes in the late 70s, then Ed had already begun his downward spiral into drugs, women, partying, etc. Also, his divorce was finalized exactly ONE MONTH after the murders. Ed was in a bad place to be messed with. The Wonderland guys picked a VERY bad time to rob Eddie via home invasion. Lest we forget also, that Eddie received karma as well. His illegitimate son was stabbed to death, along with Ed’s ex-girlfriend, by that biker guy in the mid 80s.

    The last paragraph which lists Eddie’s ailments and stuff… most of that happened to him post-Wonderland. For, he looks rather healthy in the 1981 era photos.

    Nice Guy Eddie.

    Nice Guy Eddie.

     
    • localarts 4:50 pm on February 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I remember reading a story about June Schuyler & Nash. Nash seemed to display empathy and kindness toward her son but at the same time you have to remember Eddie Nash projected himself the way he wanted to be seen by others. In the end, I think Nash threatened to kill Schuyler entire family.

      Nash was a bad guy and drugs only amplified this. Same with Holmes.

      • John 7:35 am on February 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, there is another occasion where Nash threatened to kill his ex-wife and her entire family if she did not bring the kids back to LA. “Don’t come back to LA, I will have someone kill you at the airport” (based on interview with Mrs. Nash by Legs McNeil)

    • jimmy---chicago 9:16 pm on February 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      In the movie the robbery of eddie nash looked a little ruff but I read in this blog that Ronnie started to cut Diles with a knife ,now that would freak the shit out of anybody .You are not just getting robbed but fucked with possably a little torture and wasent it Ronnie who wanted to kill a maid in the bath tub on another robbery .They made there bed and had to lay in it .I am in no way saying they deserved it but then again I have never had my home invaded an smacked around in the process Diles and Nash probably thought that they were going to kill them and when it was over they probably felt a sigh of relief and fuck this I wont let this ever happen to me again.Billy and Ronnie should have been up all night
      being on guard how stupid I bet nash was more carefull about his security after that. Tony Accardo the godfather of the chicago mob was robbed in the early eighties around same time as wonderland and he had all the mob burglers tortured and killed involved or not just to set a presidence not to fuck with the big man so be careful on who you screw over

      • criticextraordinaire 5:36 am on February 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “I am in no way saying they deserved it”… I’ll say it then. There are some crimes that call for ruthless street justice and what happened to Eddie is one of those times. Ronnie and Billy got what they had coming. Break into a guy’s house, put a gun at him, shoot his bodyguard, snort lines off his daughter’s vanity mirror, steal his money and dope… You’re asking for it.

      • John 7:34 am on February 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, as localarts said once, Diles had a rough morning. Got grazed by Lind’s accidental gun fire and then Ronnie tried to dry shave him with a Rambo type knife. LOL.

    • localarts 7:11 am on February 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Whether or not they deserved it is beside the point. Like Leggs McNeil said, the mistake they made was not killing Nash & Diles. Holmes deserved to die for being stupid enough to suggest the home invasion robbery to begin with and of course his involvement in the murders themselves.

      • criticextraordinaire 7:26 pm on February 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I agree with you there, localarts. Ronnie slipped up by not finishing off Eddie & Greg. He knew better and it ended up costing him his life. If you pull that sort of crap on a guy like Eddie, you better be prepared to go all the way, ’cause he’s gonna come after you with everything he’s got.

        • Bobby 12:16 am on February 14, 2014 Permalink

          It’s utterly confounding that the Wonderland gang didn’t do more to avoid the retribution that was undoubtedly coming their way. They had to know that Nash wasn’t gonna take it lying down, hence why they were contemplating skipping town. They also had to know Holmes would squeal once Nash got a hold of him so why the hell did they continue to stay in contact with him? He wasn’t to be trusted, period. Don’t let him into your apartment in the early hours of the morning!! Nash would’ve taken all of 3 seconds to work out that Holmes was behind it all! Real amateur mistakes that ended up costing their lives. There’s a very good chance that they could’ve gotten away with the robbery but instead they got lazy and complacent and totally screwed everything.

        • localarts 7:31 am on February 14, 2014 Permalink

          “You Better Cancel Christmas” —- Gregory Dewitt Diles.

    • jimmy---chicago 8:13 pm on February 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Eddie is no different than most not all risky businesses owners.By risky I mean dive bars ,clubs,strip joints and liquor stores the type of places that most people dont care about even law enforcement dosent car about the well being of these places .The video poker machines, pool tables and juke boxes
      are usually supplied by mob owned amusement companies .You can’t come off as mr rogers when you have these type of businesses the people you have to deal with just to get up and running are going to see how far they can go with you .Mabe you opned a joint in someones territory and now you have to pay some wiseguy asshole a monthly fee to even open up .Eddie is also a product of his environment he comes from a place that stone women that have been raped ,cut off hands of thieves and other awfull things .Its called Middle eastern justice and there are a lot of immigrents in this country
      who want sharia law here. So these people are all over the place . How many murderers did you walk past today and said hi .Mabe you like to get hi where did it come from whose hands touched it first.Any way Eddie is no mystery we all deal with his type every day.I also think like ronnie his reputation keeps growing .I dont believe ronnie killed 27 people and I dont believe the 40 acres in the desert story with eddie but I do believe eddie did wonderland and ronnie probably did the mexico thing and mabe someone else . Enough of my rambling 4 to day

      • localarts 12:03 pm on February 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I have always had trouble with Ronnie and the 27 murders. I don’t know about everybody else on this forum but I have followed or read about Wonderland since the 1980’s and I had never read or heard about the 27 a ledged murders until Long Time Money & Lots of Cocaine came out. As far as I know, that the only published account to makes these claims about Launius.

        If I’m not mistaken, the 40 acres of desert property story was told to James Cox via someone who worked for the LAPD during that time period. It may or may not be true but I wouldn’t put it past Eddie to have at least 5 acres!! Even though it’s extremely difficult to believe anything John Holmes say’s, Holmes, Schiller and Scott Thorson all made references to “people disappearing in the desert”

        You make some very good points Jimmy C.

        • criticextraordinaire 7:32 pm on February 14, 2014 Permalink

          I think the bidding STARTS with 27. Remember, when the news got out that Ronnie was dead, cops all over California were celebrating. I read somewhere (maybe it was here) that one cop mentioned of Ronnie’s funeral “Well he won’t need many pall bearers”, and when asked to elaborate he said “A trash can only has two handles”. Ronnie outsmarted all the cops though, and I suppose that’s why they hated him, the one who always got away. The only man in California who could bring him down was Eddie Nash… and himself.

        • jimmy---chicago 10:31 pm on February 14, 2014 Permalink

          It seems like cox took a lot of liberties and here are some examples 1. DAVID LIND IN MOVIE SAID NO WITNESSES , I THINK THAT NILS DUDE SAID IT WAS RONNIE THAT SAID NO WITNESSES WITH THAT ROBBERY THAT THE MAID WAS IN BATH TUB 2.IN THE BACKGROUND IN MOVIE WHEN THEY SHOW RONNIE (JOSH LUCAS) WHILE DAVID IS BEING INTERAGATED THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME KIND OF OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS AND SOMETHING ABOUT NOT RESPECTING AUTHORITY(my words cant remember exact wording in movie) Well he joined the air force they didnt draft him and daddio was in airforce so he knew what it was all about and he was discharged honerably so see what I mean. I BET THAT EITHER SUSAN LAUNIUS COULD SUE FOR THE WAY THEY PORTRAID HER AND RONNIES FAMILY ALONG WITH LINDS FAMILY COULD DO THE SAME ALSO. THE MOVIE CASINO ALL THE NAMES WERE CHANGED AND THE SCENE WHERE DUDES EYE POPS OUT HAPPNED IN CHICAGO THAT WAS IN 60S THAT WAS CALLED THE M&M MURDERS IT IS ON THE INTERNET LOOK IT UP MARTY SCORCEZY(I CANT SPELL) SAID IT WAS A NIGHTMARE HE WOULD HAVE TO GET ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE RELATED TO THOSE WHO WERE PORTRAYED IN MOVIE TO SIGN OFF ON IT BECAUSE THE MOB WOULD AND FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE MOB WOULD SUE THE NEWS PAPERS OVER STORIES THAT WERE PROBABLY TRUE BUT NOT PROVEN. THE MOVIE CASINO WAS ABOUT THE SPILOTRO BROTHERS AND GAMBELING ACE LEFTY ROSENTHALL AND THE REST OF THE OUTFIT(THE NAME GIVEN BY CAPONE FOR OUR BRANCH OF THE MOB) THE WHOLE MOVIE WAS ABOUT HOW THE OUTFIT RUNS EVERYTHING WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI AND THEY LET NEW YORK HAVE ATLANTIC CITY. WELL EVERY NAME WAS CHANGED AND EVENTS WERE SCREWED WITH BECAUSE OF LAW SUITS.SO HOW DID COX GET AWAY WITH IT.

    • Bobby 12:40 am on February 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Can’t say I much believe the 40 acres in the desert story either. From what I understand Eddie was a businessman first (a pretty good one by the looks of things!) and a “gangster” second. Really though, what more do we know about the gangster side of Eddie? Did he used to rough up people himself or have his heavies do this sorta dirty work? Did he ever have anyone killed? Did he ever have anyone kneecapped? Why did he have a bodyguard.. had he amassed quite a few enemies that he needed protecting from? Other than hearing the media continually refer to him as a Nightclub owner and gangster I have yet to come across any solid evidence (other than the Wonderland crime) to support the latter labelling. Anyone care to shine some light on this? Perhaps I missed an entry here on this blog re: Eddie nefarious gangsterism…

    • localarts 10:13 am on February 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Yeah, James Cox embellished a few things for “dramatic effect” there’s no doubt about that. When David Lind went to the police, Tom Lange said Lind was popping uppers & downers during the interview. When Lind was told Barbara Richardson was dead, Lange said David Lind threw a chair across the room or something like that. This of course was never in the movie but should have!

    • localarts 6:07 pm on February 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Wow Critic. At least 27?? Out of curiosity, why do you believe that? I mean were talking Ted Bundy type numbers!

      • criticextraordinaire 7:27 pm on February 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Well you have to figure that if the known total was 27, there were probably a few others that the cops never found out about. Like the dudes in Mexico who unwisely kidnapped Susan. The cops would not have cared about those guys.

        • jimmy---chicago 9:25 am on February 16, 2014 Permalink

          Do we even know if the mexico thing really happned.In the Nils interview he said or refered to that mexico thing as overglorified (what does that mean) are we talking about a deal with a couple of shady mexicans over the border that went bad.Every time I hear this story it involves a drug cartel .This is where it turns into a big fish story. What did he do come busting in like the guns of navarone bazuka in one hand and a 50 calaber in the other swinging in through the window with the rope clinched between his teeth.He wasent Rambo and how does this fit into the timeline?This to me would be the biggest story or the most interesting story of ronnie .Now we get to the 27 murders . Who are the 27 and just because ronnie was murdered that dosent stop an investigation let alone 27 investigations this would be a big deal and a promotion for the person who solves 27 murders and ties it to one person.Also who was he doing hits for another drug dealer well if he has 27 dead beat customers he’s outta business and if ronnie did all of the above that I Briefly touched on he never would have been so stupid to get murdered in his sleep. I dont think susan would have been around for wonderland if the mexico thing really went down I could be wrong.I have reason to believe susan was trying to dump ronnie while he was in jail for those years.She realized that she was not going anyware with ronnie .The guy steals for a living and would not be able to consistantly provide for her .Well thats what I think.

        • criticextraordinaire 2:18 pm on February 16, 2014 Permalink

          Jimmy it’s called “codependency”. People who stick around somebody who is obviously bad for them. Either because they think they can’t do better (low self esteem), or because they feel it is their duty to try and “change” the malefactor (messiah complex). Happens all the time. There are codependency rehab counselors making a career out of this all over the country.

          I don’t think Ronnie would have done the guns of Navarone routine. He would have been discreet, taking out the opposition one by one. Each guy would, however, know who did him in and why. After all, the Mexican thing was about revenge, not business. But its hard to tell exactly what happened because all the Mexican guys are dead and so is Ronnie.

        • criticextraordinaire 5:27 pm on February 16, 2014 Permalink

          Plus, Ronnie was probably a pretty good provider. I mean, he got out of the military in ’72 I think and was able to make a living up until July of ’81. His line of business can get you lots of money (unless you violate “Rule Number One” which seems to have been the gang’s problem). If you get his sort of notoriety it’s because you are scoring money. Yeah he served some time in jail during that time period but you have to income-average. She could have done worse.

    • localarts 6:38 pm on February 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Critic, as much as you want to believe these stories about Launius and yes it does make for a fascinating tale, there really is no evidence to substantiate it. In 1972 an undercover narcotics officers had various dealings with Launius in Sacramento (it never stated he was arrested for dealing)

      Launius was however arrested later in 72 for weapons possession in another part of Northern California.
      I can’t remember the city though. The problem I have with the 27 potential homicides committed by Launius is…why did the police only mention 1? It’s been over 32 years since Ronnie took a dirt nap and still there has never been any mention of the 27 murders in reference to Ron Launius by any branch of law enforcement, at least not in printed format.

      I think it’s safe to say Launius spent a majority of the 1970’s either in jail, federal prison or some half way house. 70, 71, 72 USAF. 73 busted for narcotics trafficking, makes bail and flees to Mexico. 74, 75,76,77,78 incarcerated. I have no idea when in 78 he was released, but he gains his freedom in 1978.

      I’m thinking that if this was in fact true then Wonderland would have been an even bigger story back in 81. “Ronald Launius suspected in at least 27 murders was one of four people found bludgeoned to death” Now how’s that for a headline!

      Ronald Lee Launius may very well have murdered 27 or more people but allot of things surrounding this just don’t make sense??

      • criticextraordinaire 7:30 pm on February 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Well of course it kinda got swept under the rug. What were the cops gonna say? “Hey this guy we suspect of all these crimes, the only person who could pinch him was Eddie Nash.” While they were happy to see their nemesis’ demise, they were also embarrassed; they never did catch their target. Then Eddie embarrassed them some more. They couldn’t even convict Johnny Wad.

        Besides, I would imagine most if not all of the 27 were unsavory characters. They only wanted Ronnie because of his main line of business anyway. Once Ronnie was dead, they had more pressing issues.

      • John 8:12 am on February 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Ron was quite teflon himself. He beat gun and drug charges in the early 70s. He was acquitted. I wonder who his lawyer was? Anyhoo, in reading Ron’s appeal for his smuggling conviction, he may have had the conviction reversed on appeal if he had not plead guilty (if I read that legal document correctly). That case regarding “double jeopardy” has been cited over the years by other cases. The key is, not to plead guilty though.

    • jimmy---chicago 4:44 pm on February 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Street wise, joint wise, and con wise.But not wise enough to stay alert after stealing all that shit fron nash

    • John 5:22 pm on February 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Being con-wise and such, Ron and Bill should have known Holmes would fuck it all up. But, with all the dope and nrwfound wealth, they were not thinking clearly.

    • localarts 5:22 pm on February 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      The gang was planning on fleeing to Hawaii but partied too long on Nash’s stash, big mistake. The gang should have purchased their airline tickets in advance and Ronnie should have told Cherokee to have everybody’s luggage waiting for them at LAX. Joy & Barbara tell Holmes they are going to the canyon country store to get some smokes (there really headed to the Hilton) McCourt drives straight to the airport form Nash’s house. The gang rents a room at the Hilton, everybody gets their cut, and they party till the sun comes up the following morning, have breakfast and casually board a flight to Maui.

      All the time Holmes is still waiting at 8763 wondering WTF.

      • criticextraordinaire 6:31 pm on February 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        And yet there was John Holmes, still alive. John was a survivor and he was surviving.

    • Jeremy 3:10 pm on January 22, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Deserve has nothing to do with it. If you associate with known murderer’s and drug dealers, and make no mistake about it, Nash was both. Let’s not forget that the rumors surrounding Nash at the time involved him lobbying head’s off and barring them in the desert. True or not, at the least a cause for pause. So they had to have known that what transpired was real possibility. On the other hand if Nash was such a great guy as said article implies, then who sends someone to murder other human beings, regardless of what offensive was layed at his feet. He didn’t just have the people who robbed him killed. There are two victims that for all intense purposes had nothing to do with the robbery. Let’s not forget that!!

    • bobabooie 6:37 am on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      The sad fact is that if Nash hadn’t given those junkie assholes some retribution they would have been back at Dona Lola every week making Eddie and Gregory Diles their bitches. Drug addicts live per diem and certainly do not care about longevity.

  • John 7:29 am on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Gunning For Eddie 

    I wish that I could find this article from 2001 by Susan Goldsmith. She was even nominated for an award in some contest. Heck, maybe she won, I don’t know.

    Gunning For Eddie summary:

    The New Times reports on the saga of former Hollywood nightclub owner Eddie Nash, who evaded prosecution for murder, arson and drug dealing. Nash walked away from a conviction in the high-profile Wonderland Avenue murder trial — twice — but in 1997 a former business partner admitted to involvement in bribing a jury member. At the time the article was written Nash was awaiting trial under the RICO act.

    Sadly, the New Times in L.A. went out of business. It was one of those weekly city newspaper magazines that are free at stores, etc. I think this outfit was sued and who knows what happened to their archives. I really hate that. Thank goodness that when the LA Herald-Examiner went under, that like-minded people made sure their archives and photos were all saved. You can still view them, but for a price. At least these archives still exist. I’m not sure if I’ll ever find this 8 page kick ass looking article, “Gunning for Eddie”. I’m sure it included photos too.

    I’ll keep looking. Oh, and enjoy some photos:

     
    • Dave 2:00 pm on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      You could try contacting the author, Goldsmith, to see if she can supply you with the article. A quick Google search revealed a Susan Goldsmith who works as an investigative journalist for the Oregonian. I suspect she’s the author.

      • John 4:35 pm on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thx Dave!!

      • John 12:34 pm on October 24, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Well, she was laid off from the Oregonian. She writes books too though, but her FB and web site are not good links anymore. I will keep trying!!

        • Dave 1:25 pm on October 24, 2013 Permalink

          Was the Oregonian willing to give you a forwarding address or contact information? Many employers will do so when they get inquiries about departed employees. Good luck. I was a New Times reader and have a very vague recollection of reading that article when it came out. Wish I had kept a copy of it.

        • John 1:29 pm on October 24, 2013 Permalink

          No worries, Dave. I found her on FB. Thanks for the help. I’ll post it when I hear from her.

        • Dave 1:31 pm on October 24, 2013 Permalink

          Hi, John — I did a bit more internet searching and it appears Ms. Goldsmith is now in Tucson, AZ. I see from your other post that you’ve been able to find a Facebook link for her as well. She has a LinkedIn profile if you are interested in contacting her via that method, too.

    • Bonnie Brae 2:04 pm on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I think I want to have feathered hair again. It’s so cool.

      • Bonnie Brae 2:05 pm on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Gayle and I are going over the hill for lunch. Gonna try to make a video of just Sugarmen’s if there is enough time.

    • John 4:34 pm on October 23, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Fuckin A!!

  • John 2:16 pm on October 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    LA Times: Nash An “Impassive Cadaverous Man” In 1982 

    During his 1982 arson trial, Eddie Nash looked like an emotionless corpse.

    It had been a rough couple of years for Ed. Addiction and womanizing had ruined his marriage to Jeanna, his high school cheerleader bride. When they married in 1972, he was 44 and she was 21. They divorced in August of ’81. A month before the divorce was final, the Wonderland Gang pulled their home invasion job and the rest is history. You won’t hear Eddie reminiscing about the summer of ’81.

    Read on…

    Eddie Nash, early 1980s.

    Eddie Nash, circa 1980s.

    From LAistory.com:

    Eddie Nash: The Odyssey’s Owner a Legendary Criminal

    To understand a bit more about what forces were behind the Odyssey and nightclubbing in L.A. in the 70s and 80s, consider the club’s owner: None other than Eddie Nash, the man known ultimately for his role in the “Wonderland murders” and a local legend as a drug dealer and gangster. In fact, for many, many years, Nash (born Adel Gharib Nasrallah in Palestine) was considered one of the richest and most powerful drug dealers and criminals operating on the West Coast.

    Ed's front door on Dona Lola Place in Studio City, 1980s.

    Ed’s front door on Dona Lola Place in Studio City, 1980s.

    Nash owned several clubs in L.A. at the time, including the Starwood Club in West Hollywood, the Soul’d Out club in Hollywood, Paradise Ballroom, the Seven Seas, Ali Baba’s and The Kit Kat strip club. (The last piece of club real estate he owned he gave up only recently; the Seven Seas is in a building on Hollywood Boulevard that is now converted to retail space and houses an outpost of the clothing chain Zara.)

    One of the schemes Nash was associated with was arson-for-profit; a government informant linked him to the crimes, but in June 1982, Nash was acquitted. He also seemed just mildly inconvenienced by the ensuing trial.

    From the L.A. Times:

    Nash, an impassive cadaverous man who frequently dozed off in the courtroom, sprang to his feet, smiled and waved at the jury after the verdicts were read by U.S. District Judge Matt Byrne. Asked later how he felt, Nash said, “All I want to do is get out of here.”

     
    • John 3:44 pm on October 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      The Odyssey Gets a ‘No’ Vote
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      I wish to state some relevant facts that were not mentioned in the Odyssey Club article (Times, Dec. 23) which gave the impression that the Odyssey is an innocent victim of neighborhood intolerance and harassment.

      The opposite is true. The unruly patrons of the club have, for seven years, subjected the residents in a mile-square area to unprecedented disturbances every night from 9:30 p.m. to 5 a.m.

      Due to the limited off-street parking provided by the club, the patrons park their cars in unauthorized parking lots and city streets in the surrounding residential area. The carousing antics of the patrons, many of whom are teen-agers, include drinking, pot smoking, boisterous laughter, stereo playing, urinating , defecating, fornicating and general hooliganism-all of which takes place just outside our bedroom windows.

      As a former businessman and resident of Los Angeles for 38 years, I have never encountered anything remotely comparable to the turmoil caused by the operation of a business such as the Odyssey. The testimony of the neighborhood residents during a year of open hearings conducted by the police commissioners at Parker Center and Croft School resulted in the hearing officer’s decision for denial of license renewal. During this current probationary period the Odyssey Club has continued to violate the conditions prescribed by the police commissioners.

      Businesses which are guilty of sanitary, moral or health transgressions have been called to account. Vilolators of air pollution laws and industrial wastes that poison the air and water wells have been fined and had their licesnses revoked. The Odyssey is also a polluter. It attracts patrons who have literally polluted our area into a cesspool and created a blight in our community.

      The renewal of the Odyssey Club’s license would be an endorsement of gross violations of our sanitary, moral, health and zoning laws.

      CARL LEVIN – Los Angeles

    • criticextraordinaire 6:30 pm on October 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      What needs to be said about Eddie is that her does not appear to have been a racist or particularly predjudiced. He had clubs catering to whites, blacks, gays, straights, you name it. And some of his most trusted associates were black dudes like the Diles Brothers. Even took time out of his busy schedule to testify on behalf of Linnel Dumas, the 20-year-old high school sophomore (geeze, I was a 20-year-old college junior).

      It sounds like with Eddie, if he could make money with you, you were OK in his book.

      • John W 7:05 pm on October 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks criticx… please elaborate more on the Lios Gate board…as I was not privy to that info back then. Were there rare photos shared with others? I understand that a few Wonderland era celebs showed up with messages.

        • criticextraordinaire 5:48 pm on October 10, 2013 Permalink

          John,

          The LionsGate board was text-only, no pics like you have here and it was fairly unmoderated (although a site admin did take down some extremely offensive posts). As I recall I think Dawn’s brother and sister posted there (no real revelations though) or of course they could have been impostors.

          The IMDb Wonderland board, in its heyday, had an interesting story. There was this chick who claimed to be the former girlfriend of Johnny Wadd, who bore three of his children and who alleged to have been hiding in a closet while the Wonderland hit went down. LONG story but the tales all got taller, and multiple login identities to “defend” her appeared. Ultimately (truth stranger than fiction, you can’t make this stuff up) she had her own obituary published in a Midwestern newspaper, naming her various offspring to Johnny C. F’n wild story. One of her alternative login ID’s even posted it at findagrave.com. This particular poster also had established her own notoriety (in real life, and for real) about 10-15 years prior. I’ll not elaborate on that… in the hopes that she eventually got her stuff together. I think at one point she made contact with Dawn, who promptly figured she was making it all up.

        • John 7:06 am on October 11, 2013 Permalink

          Yes, I am aware of that girl and even did a post about it, but members of this blog asked me not to waste time going down this wormhole, as it would lead nowhere. That story has also been debated on the Wonderland Murders wikipedia page…but is not released or published.

      • John 1:29 pm on October 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t moderate anything here. If it’s not spam, it gets thru, and then your posts automatically get thru after that. It’s all good, and there can be no progress here with any type of censorship. Most readers are here for a reason and that reason is Wonderland. That is the goal – 100% participation.

    • John 12:35 pm on June 15, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I think the Odyssey building was owned by Ed, and the obit for Chris Cox and other sources say that Cox owned the club itself.

    • Wolfram Alderson 11:23 am on November 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I ended up working for Eddie Nash after the Persian owners of the clothing store that I managed on Hollywood Boulevard, Ants N Pants, snuffed up so much cocaine that Eddie ended up owning them and their store. I used to take the cash from the store down to Eddie’s office above the Seven Seas restaurant. The guy Eddie sent to do the Wonderland murders used to guard the stairs leading up to Eddie’s office and I have had his gun in my ribs more than once. I didn’t stick around much longer after the clothing store changed hands – it was downright scary leaving bags of money on Eddie’s desk… he had a big walk in safe behind him. I did have a free pass at all his clubs which was nice back then in the disco days.

      • John 4:35 pm on January 29, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Hello Wolfram, I would like to chat with you and talk of your experiences. Sounds fascinating. I want to know the real Eddie. Please email the blog if you want to talk more. Thx, John

  • John 2:12 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    The Cisco Kid’s Old House in 1965 

    Some of the old L.A. telephone and address directories are online thanks to the public library.

    This is where Eddie Nash lived in 1965. He must have bought or rented this place with his Cisco Kid money. This is in North Central Los Angeles just south of Hollywood. In 1964, he is not listed, so he must have moved there in early 1965(?) Ed does not show up at all in earlier years of the phone book. Also, Eddie has an all numeric phone number – possibly by request? Or they ran out of phone codes using that letter-number system. Before my time.

    564 Lillian Way. Someone should call him!

    Unless there is another Adel Nasrallah walking around... that's him.

    Unless there is another Adel Nasrallah walking around… that’s him. 

    Holmes would have hated that No Parking nonsense. 

    Eddie has always had taste. I guess this is Santa Fe Chic!

    Eddie has always had taste. I guess this is Santa Fe Chic!

    Another view, my friends:

    I see a side door that somebody left unlocked.

    I see a side door that somebody left unlocked.

    Oh, and here is where Detective Frank Tomlinson lived in 1962, the year of the Muslim Brotherhood street fight with cops when he was shot. This is a block west of Hollywood High School. He was in unit 201, probably right there in the front.

    I wonder if that is Jill out front?  ;-)

    I love when the Google Orwell spy car catches people hanging out. Classic.

    Source:

    Los Angeles Street Address Directory, Pacific Telephone & Telegraph Company, July 1965 – Free (Los Angeles Public Library)

     
    • dreamweaverjenn 5:19 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Eddie did have a nice house! That hot dog stand must have been a HUGE success!!!

    • localarts 5:25 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Wasn’t the name of that hot dog stand Beef Chucks or something?

      • John 6:25 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yea, I’m told that it was a life measured in inches!!

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