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  • John 6:32 am on September 26, 2021 Permalink | Reply
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    • Dorene C. 9:04 pm on October 2, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      Jesus…how old was Lori, 14??

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      • John 9:27 pm on October 2, 2021 Permalink | Reply

        Right! actually it’s not a stretch, she would really go all out Sunday School look.


  • John 2:42 pm on June 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Last Stop For John Holmes 

    John Holmes died on March 13, 1988. You can read about the VA hospital here at the blog. It’s now a part-time movie set, and the other half of the hospital is out-patient only for veterans.

    According to his death certificate:

    Two days later, John’s mortal remains were cremated here at the Chapel of the Pines Crematory, just west of downtown L.A. His ashes were spread at sea just off the coast of Oxnard, CA.

    This nice domed structure looks like an observatory, and was built in 1903. Although their website claims “the final resting place for the cremains for a number of notable persons”, most of them are obscure (to me) old timey actors from before 1950. The only name that jumped out at me was Stephen Stucker. He played Johnny in the Airplane movies. Stephen died of AIDS in 1986, two years before John Holmes.

    1605 South Catalina Street, Los Angeles

    1605 South Catalina Street, Los Angeles

    John was probably delivered through this service entrance to the receiving area/back door. Note the creepy looking smokestacks.

    Service entrance

    Service entrance

    • Jill C. Nelson 7:01 am on July 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you very much, localarts. 😉


    • Jill C. Nelson 8:33 am on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Sharon may or may not have known more than she let on. The problem with Sharon’s credibility is that she made contrasting statements over the years — from admitting to detectives that she did not have any knowledge about what had transpired at the Wonderland house (in 1981), to a story where John crawled directly into bed with bloody clothes the morning following the murders (in 1988). There is the infamous “bathtub confession” account in which she described to filmmaker Cass Paley (in 1998) how John had taken a bath in her home the morning of the murders and told her how he’d been forced to go to the Wonderland house by Nash and his thugs and watch (depicted in the Wonderland movie). Sharon shared a different version of events when she described to the press in 1988 that within the comfort of his bath several days after the murders, John confided the sequences of events to her. In that version, there is no mention made of Holmes coming to her home on July 1st.

      Slightly off topic: Sharon said in 1998 that no one had known Holmes had a wife until she put it out to the press in 1988 after John’s passing. In July 1981, after John’s arrest, Sharon was interviewed by the L.A. Times and disclosed their marriage, though she could have forgotten about this disclosure through the passage of time. In 1988, staff reporter Sharon Bernstein wrote an article for the Los Angeles Herald Examiner titled ‘When the ‘king’ of adult died, the truth died with Him.’ In the article, Cher Vinarde (Holmes) is interviewed. She stated how she and Sharon had first found out about one another in 1981 after John’s arrest and that she “kept house” for Holmes for ten years. Vinarde purposely kept a low profile then, and throughout the years. However, you might want to consider approaching her for your book, John. I don’t know if she’d want to participate, but I believe she would make an interesting and fresh addition.


      • John 2:55 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        In my chapter “True Lies” I outline and discuss all of the contradictions and revisionist history made by Sharon, Dawn, Thorson and Holmes. It’s getting to be a long chapter. But, as attorney Earl Hanson said “We will never know the whole truth”. Touch’e !!


        • CynFin 8:19 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink

          What does Sharon’s bio look like? I understand that she was a nurse, married John prior to his porn fame and possibly his addictions. Was Sharon a drug addict? Did she continue her nursing career? Did they have children together? Did John have children? Sharon never remarried?


        • John 1:20 pm on July 9, 2014 Permalink

          Sharon’s obit is on the blog-

          She was just your average person, who happened to marry John when they were young. Dawn talks a lot about her in her book, Road to Wonderland and Jill in her book, LIfe Measure in Inches. Sharon worked hard as a nurse, probably never got over John Holmes … I really don’t think she ever dated again either. No kids, but they tried at one point and she had a miscarriage in the mid 60s.


        • CynFin 2:24 pm on July 11, 2014 Permalink

          Thank you.


      • localarts 4:54 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Everything is open to speculation unless we know it to be a proven fact. Third party stories, hearsay, he said she said, all have to be taken into account depending on the credibility of the source. What motive did the source have for making so & so allegations? Some things are obvious others are not.

        As a consultant on the movie “Wonderland” Sharon Holmes broke down several times according to director James Cox. Why did Sharon break down? I cannot interpret her emotional state of mind but it probably had something to do with her deceased ex husband’s involvement in the facilitation & likely participation in four counts of capital murder.

        Sharon had tolerated and may have profited from her husband’s “life’s work” for the better part of a decade so I doubt she broke out in tears over that. Wonderland took everything to another level in their relationship. Sharon could tolerate the porn but this was different.

        Jill, I’ve never read any of your books but what excerpts I have read, seem to be well researched and delivered with an unbiased opinion. That’s something I really appreciate.


      • criticextraordinaire 6:55 pm on July 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Jill, the Holmes marriage indeed was hardly a secret. Back in 1976 I had a college buddy who claimed to know porn stars. He told us that Johnny Wadd was a married man who managed an apartment building on the side when he wasn’t out there laying pipe.

        He also claimed that the girls told him that a lot of the massive wad shots back then were a mix of confectioners sugar and Carnation Evaporated Milk. We thought he was talking out of his ass and making up all that stuff. Turns out he was spot-on about John C. Holmes.

        I still wonder about the sugar-and-mlk concoction. :-O


        • Jill C. Nelson 11:10 am on July 11, 2014 Permalink

          I found that story funny, Critic, but do wonder how widespread the Holmes’s marriage truly was. Maybe Sharon didn’t realize that people knew. According to Sharon, apart from her best friend Nancy who worked with Sharon at the pediatrician’s office and the doctor who employed Sharon, she claimed that she told no one about their marriage (during the 1970’s). Naturally, many of their tenants at the apartment complex knew, as did Sharon’s parents. (Sharon’s father didn’t find out about John’s vocation until 1975 when he drove past a marquee with John’s name on it.) Joel Sussman knew John was married because John told Joel. Bob Chinn told Jennifer and I that during a road trip to Vegas one time early on, John mentioned to Bob that he was married. Bob thought it was bs. Imagine his surprise when Bob found out it was true many years later.

          Bob and Sharon met in person at a Los Angeles hotel when they were both interviewed for “When X Ruled the World” in 2004. Sharon stopped Bob when she recognized him going through the lobby and they had a chat. He was very surprised and pleased to finally meet her. Bob recalled Sharon told him how John had always admired and respected Bob and that he’d considered Bob a decent man in a sketchy business. I doubt he used that word specifically to describe the business, but I’d have to agree with John on that one. Bob Chinn is a quality human being.


    • localarts 11:45 am on July 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “Is John’s wife credible? Or . . . crazy?” It depends on who you talk to. I myself never believed Holmes killed anybody until it was reveled that Sharon told James Cox in private that she believed John committed at least one of the murders himself. Sharon made that statement in 2002, over 20 years after the fact. There was nothing for her to gain by lying about this and almost everybody we know to be associated with the slayings was dead by then. You have to understand, Sharon stood face to face with John within an hour or so of the murders and she knew him better than anybody.

      I’ve always suspected that Sharon knew more than she ever let on.


    • Mark C 6:24 pm on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I think you right localarts, Any way you look at it the road keep coming directly back to Holmes himself.
      Not he did all the killing’s himself without help. Swing the pipe? Just myself & only today because this 33 years ago today. I sure don’t want start World War 3 on here not my goal, everybody welcome to there own opinion’s respectfully , But I think he took swing or two or he would been laying there with the Wonderland Gang for everybody to find. I like story they made him walk part the way back to his car or phone booth covered in blood. That sound just like what Nash and/or Greg would do to him after they even found him wearing jewelry that was stolen only day or 2 before from The Nash.
      He had to been a major player in this sad event.
      Nash goon’s could not get access to Wonderland home without Holmes help, Really I am surprised Holmes was not put out of his misery with Wonderland Gang. That my main reason they allowed him to live. If they allow him walk away after open the door what would stop him from calling police, that story don’t make any sense to myself. Just like Holmes every action really happened got 3 or more lye’s to figure out trying to find out the real truth.
      I often wonder if The Nash don’t sneak on here and read little bit, Be great track down a IP Address directly back to The Nash, That make my day.


      • localarts 8:20 pm on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “I often wonder if The Nash don’t sneak on here and read little bit, Be great track down a IP Address directly back to The Nash, That make my day”
        LOL. I bet Eddie is lying on his sofa in Tarzana in his snuggie, a tv tray and a Mac Book pro and reading all of our post’s!


    • localarts 8:40 am on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      No matter how you look at this, everything leads back to John Holmes.


    • Mark C 7:47 am on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Today is the day 33 years ago. Nash and could be Holmes revenge if you buy the story Ronnie & Billy was mean to Holmes.
      Personal I think Holmes was too busy taking very good care of Holmes own personal greed to care about what others said.
      The excuse’s started to come out after he was in jail and sober up,


    • localarts 10:06 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      You’re a fan, of course you believe he didn’t kill anybody.


      • CynFin 9:00 pm on July 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I have so many questions. Didn’t John’s wife say that he was covered in blood and she helped him to wash bone fragments and bits of flesh from his hair in a bath the morning after the murders? Hmmm . . . seems logical to me that John got close and personal. This was NOT a shootout. Also, if Ron was such a “killer”, are there any theories about why he allowed Nash and Diles to live after the robbery? Surely, Nash was not the only drug connection in the area. Unless the gang was just so high and ego driven that they planned to go back . . . . to do it again and again? Nash and Diles should be 1981 history.


        • localarts 10:51 pm on July 2, 2014 Permalink

          Yeah, I think Nils Grevillius said Sharon told him it was pieces of bone and brain matter that covered his hair. According to David Lind, Ron Launius had a knife to Diles throat and started to cut him but Lind intervened and persuaded Ronnie to stop. Launius may well have killed Nash & Diles had Lind not been there. As it turns out, Ron Launius was far more dangerous than I initially thought.

          Eddie Nash was not the only drug connection in town but he was the biggest. Everybody who was involved in drugs and or drug trafficking knew who Eddie Nash was. The people on Wonderland Avenue knew who Eddie Nash was long before they met John Holmes.

          It’s my opinion that they never planned on robbing Eddie Nash and this is the reason why:
          John Holmes needed the Wonderland gang & the Wonderland gang needed John Holmes. Holmes associated with the gang to feed his cocaine habit. The Wonderland gang were heroin addicts & Nash would become their main supplier via John Holmes.

          Tracy McCourt testified that “china white” aka heroin was hard to come by and there wasn’t a lot of it around. This is the reason they kept Holmes around. Sure they may have humiliated him and thought he was a complete joke but they needed him.

          This arrangement they set up with Holmes & Nash (ferrying stolen merchandise and cash in exchange for heroin) had been going on some 4 to 6 months prior to the murders. They could have robbed Nash right after befriending Holmes but they didn’t because Nash was their main supplier of Heroin and most importantly this was EDDIE NASH.

          It was only after the issue with the antique guns that things got out of hand. When Billy Deverell gave Holmes the money to get the antique guns out of hock for lack of a better word, Holmes instead used that money to buy more drugs so of course Nash wasn’t going to give the guns back. Holmes solution to getting the guns back? Rob Eddie Nash.

          I think Billy was so pissed off at Holmes he didn’t care Tracy McCourt I believe was naive about the matter. Ron Launius I believe had serious reservations about this as did David Lind. McCourt would testify that everybody except Billy and himself had backed out. Launius deferred to Linds opinion. David Lind testified ‘he didn’t like it” Contrary to Linds testimony that he didn’t know it was Nash they were robbing, clearly he did. I think both Lind & Launius knew this wasn’t just your run of the mill residential robbery.

          Whatever ultimately caused the Wonderland gang to go over the cliff so to speak will never be known. What we do know is Holmes played both sides against each other and the results were catastrophic!!!

          Okay, I’m done now.


        • cjfinister@charter.net 12:32 am on July 3, 2014 Permalink

          Thank you. So, you feel that Nash was the ONLY heroin supplier in Los Angeles and this is why Ron Launius allowed him to live? I can’t even begin to sort the logic in this. Rob a man, maybe kill a man about guns/money . . . . and then stop because he’s your dealer? The ONLY dealer? I think they knew very well who he was and were high when they did it. Didn’t John have to go to Nash’s house three (3) times to make sure the door was still unlocked because everyone in Wonderland was slammed and couldn’t get up for the morning invasion? Scary stuff.

          On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Wonderland1981 – The Wonderland Murders wrote:

          localarts commented: “Yeah, I think Nils Grevillius said Sharon told him it was pieces of bone and brain matter that covered his hair. According to David Lind, Ron Launius had a knife to Diles throat and started to cut him but Lind intervened and persuaded Ronnie to stop. Laun”


        • criticextraordinaire 9:08 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink

          I think John’s wife said that a mob guy ended up dead in her house and a prominent LAPD cop made the body disappear for her too.


        • CynFin 9:54 pm on July 6, 2014 Permalink

          Is John’s wife credible? Or . . . crazy?


        • criticextraordinaire 7:11 pm on July 7, 2014 Permalink

          Oh I think she’s credible. If only she had saved some of the bone fragments and brain matter in that gold-plated foot locker of John’s that she ultimately burned.


    • localarts 12:01 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I like the latter theory. Remember, Chris Cox showed up at Eddies that afternoon (after the robbery) and saw Holmes standing by the bar. I completely agree with Nils ” Holmes didn’t need a whole lot of persuading” If Diles “beat the hell out of him” as Thorson stated, John Holmes would not have showed up at the hotel with just blood shoot eyes as Dawn would later say.

      While many of the investigators who worked or were in some fashion close to this case believe Holmes murdered Ron Launius, I believe Holmes actually murdered one of the women. Holmes was just too frightened of Ron Launius, even if he was passed out. Besides, John Holmes had a history of violence against women.


      • criticextraordinaire 8:05 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I doubt that John killed anybody, except maybe for those two guys that it is alleged that he accidentally killed while filming a scene in a gay loop.


    • localarts 10:15 am on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      On this date, way way back when. John Holmes would trade-in his crack pipe for a lead pipe and the rest is history..


      • John 11:29 am on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        At about this time, 33 years ago (9:26am PST), Lind had just left the Wonderland house, Ron was back with Susan at the house chilling, and I guess Joy and Billy were fencing goods to Fat Howard. I guess Barbara was reading her book. In about 5 hours, Holmes would be picked up at his answering service in Santa Monica by Diles and company, and hauled over to Nash’s (or he went to Nash’s on his own, if you like that theory). Whichever, but some shit was about to go down in the city of angels.


    • mark c 3:09 pm on June 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      If them smokestacks could talk they sure have lot to say.


      • John 8:03 am on June 27, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I guess this is where Laurie Holmes made the final inspection of John, seeing his remains all “intact”, and allowing the mortician to proceed with the cremation. John did not want it in a jar on a shelf, at some rich pervert’s house.


        • criticextraordinaire 7:58 am on June 28, 2014 Permalink

          “The Last Viewing of John C. Holmes”… would make a nice title for a PBS production about the King. His story should be on the “American Masters” series.


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