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  • John 10:04 am on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: knbc, , newscast, , wonderland murders   

    The Wonderland Murders 11pm Newscast – July 4, 1981 

    This newscast link was originally shared by localarts back in May. I converted it and edited out the other stuff. I wanted my own copy so that it is never lost or deleted. Enjoy! The final sign-off with America The Beautiful did not make the transfer for some reason, but at least I got the Wonderland coverage. When you saw that sign-off, you knew it was time to go to bed.

    Thanks again, localarts.

    The news lady mistakenly refers to a shootout, when in fact the murders were committed by blunt object, lead pipes.

    LEAD STORY:

    Lone Survivor of Laurel Canyon Massacre under LAPD guard at Cedar-Sinai Hosptial.

    “Live” report by Laurel Erickson (apparently taped from 11 pm newscast)

     
    • scabiesoftherat 10:43 pm on July 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      The murders happen on the 1st of July. The cops get the bodies out early on the 2nd. That means that David Lind made an immediate B-line to the cops and told his story…for Laurel Erickson to have the info that it was “over a rip-off of some heroin and possibly cocaine” on July fourth, no less,…Well, that’s pretty good expediting and reporting. The people who knew what it was about were dead or incapacitated and the other people who knew about it weren’t talking about it all…if they knew what was good for them. This has to be a reference to Lind’s statement to the cops. (Forgive me. I’m a slow learner…LOL) But that was awful fast, wasn’t it?…or am I missing something here? I believe that Holmes was busted on the fourth, but his name wasn’t mentioned in the newscast….which would make it all the more lurid. Would love to see what the 5th held…

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      • John 8:08 am on July 22, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, and McCourt was quietly talking to newspapers also. He’s quoted in one recent article after the murders as “the getaway driver”. And the media was talking to the landlady as well…she knew about the drug dealing.

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    • Anthony 6:33 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Josh Lucas talks about Wonderland (Published on Jul 18, 2013)

      I’m not sure if you guys have seen this but when you open the link you’ll see interviews with other cast members like Tim Blake Nelson and Eric Bogosian)

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      • Anthony 6:34 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        The above link is wrong, sorry.

        Josh Lucas talks about Wonderland (2003)

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        • Anthony 6:38 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink

          Eric Bogosian talks about Wonderland

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        • Anthony 6:39 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink

          Tim Blake Nelson talks about Wonderland

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        • Bobby 11:26 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink

          Great find Anthony! Are these ripped from the DVD special features?

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        • John 7:05 am on July 21, 2013 Permalink

          I like Ron’s/Josh’s Members Only / London Fog windbreaker. Total early 80s!!

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        • dreamweaverjenn 9:16 am on July 21, 2013 Permalink

          These are awesome Anthony! I think the actors did a great job and Eric Begosian made a perfect Eddie Nash.

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        • Anthony 5:09 pm on July 21, 2013 Permalink

          Lucas is wearing the cloths from the VCR out the window scene. These interviews were probably conducted between takes.

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      • Anthony 6:40 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Janeane Garofalo talks about Wonderland

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      • dreamweaverjenn 9:05 am on July 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        What was THIS movie and when did it come out or will it come out? Seems interesting. Not a mistake but a “happy accident.” Sorry, I’m a huge Bob Ross fan…….

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    • Anthony 6:21 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

    • Bobby 10:36 am on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Awesome video guys! This is the only newscast I’ve seen thanks to your blog… wonder if there are any others like this floating around in some hidden corner of cyberspace?

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      • John W 3:00 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        When Eddie Nash saw that Susan survived, he bitch slapped Diles (to use the parlance of our times), and screamed “Tonight! You’re only gettin ONE 8 ball to smoke.. and I’m taking Thorson to the Earth Wind n Fire concert and not you! Or my name isn’t Eddie Nash!”

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        • Bobby 11:25 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink

          LOL! It’s funny how Thorson says in that Artie Lange vid that Nash hit the pipe hard, got really paranoid and then put a hit out on him. He must’ve been smoking his body weight in rock and it sure didn’t help his intensified paranoia when newscasts like this stated “The police have about a hundred clues”!!

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        • dreamweaverjenn 8:58 am on July 21, 2013 Permalink

          Ha!!!! That cracks me up!!!!

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      • John W 3:21 pm on July 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Laurel Erickson should have won a news Emmy for her coverage outside that hospital. I haven’t seen such journalism in a lonh time, since like 1981.

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        • localarts 5:34 pm on July 21, 2013 Permalink

          Yes, I agree and she was pretty hot too.

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  • John 7:46 am on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: brady bunch, , wonderland murders   

    A Drive Through Studio City (Dawn’s 7-11 Store) 

    The 7-11 store at 15 seconds is the one from Dawn’s book The Road through Wonderland.

    The Brady Bunch House is at 1:20!

    This is Bonnie’s hood. I love all of the classic style apartments the most. Where I live, they don’t keep old stuff around, they tear it down and build some new monstrosity. I love L.A. and need to get over there asap.

    WonderAveLogo

     
    • Bonnie Brae 10:31 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I’m in Des Moines right now! Ohio next week. Any good murder crime scenes here???

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      • scabiesoftherat 1:16 am on July 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Ohio has the Kirtland Barn. You coming in for the 48?

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        • Bonnie Brae 7:18 am on July 22, 2013 Permalink

          what’s the 48? I’m just visiting family but I want to see the Rock and Roll museum or what ever it is. My brother has a lot of kids and I have my daughter so probably will be a lot of kid stuff.

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        • John 8:12 am on July 22, 2013 Permalink

          When I was there again in ’99, we just went to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It was the greatest day of my life. The next day we drove down to the Kentucky Derby and that was like an MTV Spring Break Beach Party. Crazy!!

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    • localarts 6:28 pm on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Thats nice Bonnie but were still waiting on part 1 of LA to Montana (John’s sisters house)!

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    • dreamweaverjenn 8:17 am on July 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      The Brady Bunch was my FAVORITE show as a kid!!! And John I agree, L.A. is calling. I SO need to live there. Here where I live, they tear the stuff down too. After the hurricane in 04 it was bad because the county took their opportunity to build more parks and condos for the very rich! Here, once the county has a hard on for your property, you might as well just give it up because they’re going to take it one way or another. I miss those old apartments and homes, they add character to the town. Bonnie, once again, you ARE the coolest!!!! ❤

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  • John 11:28 am on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: newspaper, wonderland murders   

    Wonderland Is Herald-Examiner Front Page News 

    Thanks to Ed for sharing this gem on the FB page.

    The Herald-Examiner is long gone now and it’s a real shame. I would love to browse those archives. I hate seeing a classic newspaper go out of business.

    Click to enlarge and you can read the first page. It cuts off right when the neighbor is about to say something good… oh well. I love the find, Ed! Nice work.

    Also, those aren’t cops in the photo. That photo was taken a few days before. They are customers waiting for Billy to drop down a brown paper bag filled with smack. Suit and tie lunchtime crowd, LOL.

    July 2, 1981.

    July 2, 1981.

     

     
    • localarts 5:20 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      LOL yeah. Who know, it may be in Eddie’s car collection.

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    • localarts 3:46 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Haven’t seen that one before. I wonder what happened to Joy’s Mercedes?

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      • John 4:29 pm on July 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes me too. It’s hopefully in the hands of an enthisiast and featured at classic car shows.

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  • John 8:35 am on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    John Holmes Preliminary Trial – Part 1 

    Thanks to Bonnie for helping with this…

    As June draws to a close, and as we observe the anniversary of the Wonderland saga, today I am posting the Foreword from the book “Long Time Money And Lots Of Cocaine” by Rodger Jacobs. He says the transcripts for Holmes’ 1982 court trial are lost? I doubt there is a conspiracy there, most likely it was a lazy civil servant who did not bother looking and went outside to smoke instead.

    My favorite part below is McCourt whining about not being part of the inside robbery. In fact, when everyone else thought the robbery was too risky, McCourt and Deverell were going to take care of it on their own, just the two of them. That’s in the testimony.

    If David Lind was observed as articulate and smooth at Holmes’ preliminary trial hearing in 1982, then at Nash and Diles trial eight years later, he would be grouchy, cantankerous and hard to deal with. Maybe he scored some bad junk?

    Also, in the 5 year anniversary L.A. Times article I posted a few weeks ago, D.A. Ron Coen stated that Nash continually said to cops that it was Lind who went to the house and killed everybody, stole the loot, etc. Maybe he hated Billy’s white jeans?

    P.S. – I cannot believe that Rodger got John’s year of death incorrect. What. The. Hell.

    Also, was Nash really L.A.’s biggest mobster? Sounds a bit inflated to me in order to sell books. The story is interesting enough without having to embellish or exaggerate, and make shit up. It’s not necessary.

    I will post more soon, as to how the robbery plans escalated, and other details from the witnesses themselves. Fuckin’ A!

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    FOREWORD

    In the late 1960s a young man of Middle Eastern heritage named Adel Gharib Nasarallah established a hot dog stand on Hollywood Boulevard. By the 1970s Adel had Americanized his name to Eddie Nash and that lone hot dog stand had blossomed into a stranglehold on the Hollywood night club scene. Nash held 36 liquor licenses and owned the hottest clubs in town: The Paradise Ballroom, The Starwood, and the Kit Kat Club, just to name a few. The club scene of the 80s was fueled by cocaine and other narcotics, so Nash wasn’t just making money at the door but behind closed doors as well. Eddie Nash had evolved into one of the most powerful mobsters Los Angeles had seen since the days of Mickey Cohen.

    Pimp.

    Pimp.

    By contrast, the rag tag bunch of dopers that lived in a split-level home at 8763 Wonderland Avenue in Laurel Canyon were second-rate hoods, with the exception of Ronald Launius. And then there was porn titan John Holmes, the man at the very center of the mystery and the murders. In the words of former Los Angeles District Attorney Ronald S. Cohen this is the tale of “a drug robbery that went tragically awry.”

    The blood-soaked events that occurred in July 1981 continue to haunt and fascinate because the bludgeoning murders remain an unsolved mystery. The true assailants have never been apprehended. Gregory Diles, Eddie Nash’s 300-pound bodyguard, died in 1995 at age 48.
    John C. Holmes, who was acquitted at trial in 1982, died from complications of AIDS at an L.A. Veterans hospital in 1987.

    The nearest we come to justice in the horrifying slayings on Wonderland Avenue is the 2000 indictment against Nash for jury tampering and conspiracy in the murders. Nash, in ailing health, plead guilty and served a scant 37 months. He is still alive and living in L.A. as of this writing.

    What you are about to read is the complete transcript of the February 1982 Preliminary Hearing for John Holmes in the Wonderland murders. By conspiracy or bureaucratic blunder, the entire transcripts of John’s 1982 trial in Superior Court are not to be found in the county clerk’s office. The transcripts have simply vanished. But the Preliminary Hearing transcript exists intact and the
    drama is more than evident.

    The transcript reads like a true mystery novel. At the periphery of the tale are prosecution witnesses David Lind, an articulate, smooth-talking felon, and Tracy McCourt, a disgruntled and petulant second-rate hood. Both men participated in the robbery of Eddie Nash that preceded and instigated the Wonderland killings; Lind as a gunman and McCourt as a getaway driver. In his
    testimony, McCourt pouts that Lind became part of the plot to rob Nash “at the last minute” and that even McCourt’s gun was confiscated and given to the interloping criminal.

    David Lind’s testimony lays out the star-crossed nightmare that transpired in July 1981 in riveting detail. In order to maintain dramatic flow, certain points of legal procedure that serve to dull the reading experience – such as the swearing in of witnesses – have been redacted. Otherwise, this is a verbatim transcript.

    Rodger Jacobs
    Los Angeles, California
    June 2005

     
    • localarts 12:20 pm on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      “was Nash really L.A.’s biggest mobster?” Not sure, but 10 out of 10 drug lords agree: If you make them beg for their life in their own home, you better kill them. Just ask.. well never mind.

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      • John 12:59 pm on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I love the scene in The Godfather, where some short skinny strung-out ex-cons broke in, and had Vito open his floor safe.

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        • The Odyssey 8:36 pm on June 21, 2013 Permalink

          Yes. Eddie Nash was the biggest gangster/mobster in L.A. Ask Jerry Van Hoorelebeke.
          Ask Anthony Al Muddaris who owned The Body Shop strip club on Sunset . (his brother Salah owns it now)

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        • LMNOP 3:31 pm on March 28, 2014 Permalink

          Salah is Anthony Mudarris cousin, not brother

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    • localarts 11:19 am on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Bobby, you really need to get a copy of Jacobs book and read thru it several time’s. You have to wade through the BS to get a better picture of what actually happened. Holmes & Lind both lied but take a very close look at McCourt’s testimony along with Linds 1989 Preliminary testimony and you start to get closer to the truth.

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      • Bobby 1:01 am on June 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the info Localarts. I’d love to grab a copy of the book but I’m not having much luck finding it. Amazon seem to be out of stock and other sites I’ve checked don’t even have a listing for it. Know anywhere I can get it from?

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        • Bonnie Brae 7:34 am on June 21, 2013 Permalink

          The only place to buy it is on Lulu. It’s self published which means that to buy a copy you have to pay 16$ plus another 8 for shipping. 24$ total to get the book in something like 15 – 20 days, because it has to get printed. I wound up buying the e-book – it was 9 bucks.

          Mixed feelings about this method. I’m glad that people are able to self publish a book and get to keep most of the proceeds. The e-book seems the more practical option.

          Ignatius J. Reilly would have finally had a way to get his lengthy indictments against our century, out into the world.

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        • Bobby 8:21 am on June 21, 2013 Permalink

          Thanks so much for your informative reply Bonnie! As much as I’d like to get the hard copy I’m a little strapped for cash (as always) so I guess an e-book copy is the way to go. Since it’s self published I’m guessing most of the money at least goes straight to the author.

          So do you live in Studio City Bonnie? Would be so cool if you managed to wrangle your way into Eddie’s old mansion for some photos – ha! Ah, one can dream.. 😉

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        • Bonnie Brae 1:19 pm on June 26, 2013 Permalink

          I Have taken pictures of the Dona Lola House – I will send them to John to post.

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        • John 9:05 am on October 15, 2013 Permalink

          Actually, I have pretty much posted the entire Jacobs book on this blog. The foreword and the testimonies of those involved. It’s all here. Don’t spend the money.

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    • Bobby 11:01 am on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      That was a great read – looking forward to the follow up. Are you able to post any of Lind’s testimony? Interesting to learn that Lind muscled his way into the robbery at the last minute. Wonder if McCourt was a closer friend to Deverell or to Launius and who actually asked him to join the heist in the first place? I can understand the gang screwing Holmes out of his fair share of the loot but to do the same to McCourt, who I’m guessing was a genuine “friend”, is a pretty shitty thing to do. Unlike Holmes who just “sat at home with the girls” McCourt took a big risk as the driver and was probably the one who came up with the stolen getaway car too. So much for honour amongst thieves.

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  • John 2:29 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , morton downey jr, wonderland murders   

    Morton Downey, Jr. Show – Still Looking For David Lind 

    Ok, so I got my hopes up… the adrenaline was pumping!

    I sifted through a lot of rubbish today on YouTube looking for it. Man, I hate this show and can see why I did not watch it back in those days. This video only has 40+ views.

    Unless David Lind is using an alias here, I’m not sure if he is in this Bounty Hunters episode. I also watched the drugs episode, the porn episode and white supremacist episode… I did not see him in those shows either. Minus commercials, each show was only 45 minutes long. I scanned a list of episodes but could not find another suitable topic that would allow for him being a guest on Morton Downey, Jr. However, there was one episode from March, 1989 that just read “Current Events” (Nash Trial?).  Any ideas? Here is the list of episodes that I was researching… help me out. The Mort show only ran for 2 seasons I think.

    That one guy in the cowboy hat sure looks like the few photos I have seen of a fifty-something year old David Lind. Anyways, check out this guy’s profile, he has a ton of Mort videos posted…

     

     
    • lucian 10:45 am on December 28, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Fuck bounty hunters. First, if they go to any other country other then The Philippians, they can and often do get legal shot. Second, I think I hate this talk show host more then most people that ever lived. Morton Downey Jr is the archetype for Super Mario Brothers King Koopa. Third, I am on bail now for yelling at police officers while in jail, on Ambien. I’m a college grad, an 125 pound woman, and I had to pay a hell of a lot after too much jail time to get out. I can’t leave because if some idiot who needs to be arrested by the fashion police themselves comes after me; which they can’t because they would never find me if I choose to run- but I won’t- well, that would piss me off. Also, I’d like to know where does this idiot talk show host get his audience? Who gives these people the authority to say they are morally superior then me? Corrupt law makers? They are worse then police officers. But morals are dropped for monetary gain, right? Finally, David Lind died in the city I lived in for far too long. Lots of bad black tar heroin there. Eureka is also known for some famous people trying to fake their own death (i.e. Ken Kesey.) I liked David Lind until I heard that he was a bounty hunter. I’m sure he either retired, or kept that a secret in Eureka. It’s a rough city. -I guess I’m a big timer for spitting on an officer on Ambien in jail. Lock me up for life. I respect people, but not this type of authority. Ps. on a separate note, Ronnie Launius was half Lithuanian. So am I. Once I heard that, I feel that I understood him.

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    • Anthony 7:44 pm on June 5, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Does anyone know the title of the episode Lind was on? If so, you might be able to find it here.

      MORTON DOWNEY JR. SHOW (24 DVDS) ($40.00)

      http://www.ioffer.com/i/morton-downey-jr-show-24-dvds-185513586

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      • Eric B. 9:52 pm on June 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I also saw that here:

        http://www.sell.com/24F1VS

        and I noticed that the topic is that of bounty hunters in Atlantic City. Would David Lind have traveled that far at that time, and if so, for what reason(s)?

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    • dreamweaverjenn 7:23 am on June 5, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      My guess would be the current events episode. I will keep searching too. Would love to see it..

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      • John 7:54 am on June 5, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I found the Current Events episode, and he is not on that one. The topics are the usual stuff. I wonder what the episode is even titled..? He was not on the Mass Murderers show, or Porn Perverts, or Racism/Nazis episodes. Still looking… I’ve asked the guy who posted them, so maybe he knows. The video must exist because a guy posted on IMDB in 2008 or 09 that he is also looking for it.

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    • localarts 6:08 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      John, If I had any idea where to find this incredible footage I would send you the link but your guess is as good as mine. I’ve searched for I don’t know how long with no luck.

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    • localarts 4:45 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Although I’ve never seen the episode, a friend of mine has. He said Lind specifically threatens Downey on the air. He said Downey tried to insinuate that David Lind knew the gang was going to be murder that evening and Lind was “conveniently not there” as he put it. He said Lind really came unglued.

      I think this interview was done sometime after Nash & Diles were back in the news ( Charged in September 88 or the preliminary hearing Jan of 89, not sure though.

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      • localarts 4:47 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Besides, these guy’s are too nice.

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        • John W 5:58 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink

          Yes, they are too nice. I remembered what you told me and was looking for a confrontational moment, so none of this clicked. Damn, so close but so far. Maybe the ghost of David Lind will visit me tonight and tell me where to find that episode LOL.

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    • Bobby 3:43 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Good work John.. You’re getting closer… can almost taste it.. 😉
      Unfortunately I don’t think that Stan is our man on account of his NY accent and he doesn’t really look like much of a smack head. Doubt that Lind would come out and promote being a bounter hunter as I suspect he would have wanted to keep a low profile re: his criminal exploits. I guess the reason he came on the show was more to clear his name. Anyway, you’re right though, he kinda does look like him. Funny thing is that Joeb guy from the Ghandi Foundation looks even MORE like Lind. Ha!

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      • John 3:50 pm on June 4, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Bob. There must be an episode titled “Infamous Murders” or “Witness Protection” or something… If only!!!

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        • Bobby 7:24 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink

          Wow, funny you should say that, I just came across this on the TV Guide website but unfortunately can’t see an episode number.. anyway, definitely the strongest lead yet as this episode’s called “Highly Publicized Murders”:
          http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=203198&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=718071
          Finally, a step in the right direction!

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        • John 9:04 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink

          Great stuff Bobby! I searched on “morton downey murders” on youtube and did not find. I like this lead, things are heating up!! Thx.

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        • Bobby 9:12 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink

          No prob, I reckon this would have to be the one! I’ve also been searching high and low for any mention of this episode online but can’t find a thing. Have you thought about contacting the network that produced this series and asking for a copy? I know with news broadcasts you can purchase clips for a small fee but not too sure how you’ll go with a copyrighted/syndicated show. Might be worth a shot eh?

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        • John 9:18 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink

          Good idea. No matter what occurs, there is always a way…!!

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        • Bobby 11:01 am on June 6, 2013 Permalink

          Yes, definitely, there’s always a way.. I have faith in you John! If you have anymore info pertaining to the show (production co./network etc) I’ll see what I can dig up on my end. Anyway, it’s great that we have an episode name now, so at least that’s a rock solid lead.. if only there was a season/episode number to go with it! Maybe somebody out there can find a listing of all Morton Downey Jr. Show episodes?.. Would be hugely appreciated.

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  • John 6:03 pm on April 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Liberace's Lover Testifies in Quadruple Murder Trial 

    This is an article from before the Nash/Diles trial in 1990. As I have stated in the past, Nash and Diles were in legal hell for years after the murders. The cops can and will haul someone to jail whenever they feel like it, even just to fuck with you. I need to create a timeline for all the shit these two assholes went through. Not that they weren’t involved, but Nash even had $75,000 withheld from a million dollar bail he once put up, as a penalty for something or other.

    Let’s move on…

    I do not know if or for how long Scott Thorson stayed at the Nash house. He may have stayed there for a night or two at some point, but it was while he was doing drugs. But on the night of the Wonderland slayings, Scott was just stopping by to score drugs. Nash said “Here, sit down. I have been robbed… and John Holmes was involved.” Nash threatened Thorson and his family with death if he told anybody. Thorson also recounted how he had an awkward, eerie conversation in the kitchen with Johnny Wadd. Holmes waited  there for Diles and company to get their shit together and go attack the gang on Wonderland.

    In the summer of 1981, Scott Thorson was heavy into crack or freebase, and he and Liberace were on thin ice as a couple. Less than a year later, Liberace would throw Scott out on the street. Around this time, Thorson even traded the Rolls Royce to Eddie Nash for drugs. This was a gift from Liberace. Scott’s life was a fucking mess in the early 80s. News articles state that  in 1982, Nash’s guys helped Thorson to get his belongings from one of Liberace’s L.A. residences because Scott was afraid that Liberace’s bodyguards would beat him up. Scott Thorson was also rumored to have let Nash and Diles stay at one of Liberace’s residences in the days just after the murders, until the heat died down from the investigation. Diles and Nash would later serve time on drug charges and Diles would also get in trouble for firing his gun at police when they raided Nash’s home in the weeks following the Wonderland killings. Diles defense was that he thought they were burglars.

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    March 22, 1990 | Los Angeles Times

    A former lover of the late entertainer Liberace Wednesday linked both defendants (Eddie Nash and Greg Diles) in the Laurel Canyon murder trial to the house where four people were bludgeoned to death in 1981.

    Scott Thorson, 31, who said he received a settlement of $95,000 after he filed a palimony suit against Liberace, testified that he was staying at the Studio City home of defendant Adel (Eddie Nash) Nasrallah in 1981 when he overheard a violent argument between Nash and porno movie star John Holmes.

    Nash and co-defendant Gregory Diles, Nash’s bodyguard, were “beating Mr. Holmes up,” Thorson said under questioning by Deputy Dist. Atty. Dale Davidson. “I heard Mr. Nash . . . telling Mr. Holmes that if he didn’t take him to where those people were who robbed him, he would have every member of his family killed.”

    Prosecutors contend that the murders were in retaliation for a robbery two days earlier by three occupants of the house, with Holmes’ aid.

     
  • John 11:42 am on April 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Liberace’s Home In Ruins – An Interesting Video 

    Liberace had style and besides that, he was also one hell of a musician.

    I wonder what he would have thought of Thorson’s knack for hanging out with scumbags and dope dealers. I am certainly convinced that Liberace would have been quite appalled at the decor of Eddie Nash’s 70’s dictator-chic home interior, not too mention the house at Wonderland, with its basic furnishings and surprisingly tidy appearance (not too mention the tube socks, cowboy boots and Billy wearing white denim jeans and having no shirt on). As a flamboyant artist, he would not have found much inspiration at either place.

    This is a sad video of what has happened to his old mansion in Vegas. I would buy it if I could and turn it into a Wonderland museum.

     

     
    • Bonnie Brae 8:43 am on April 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Great video!

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    • Bonnie Brae 1:08 am on April 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you for not saying “Billy sans the shirt”.
      ‘Sans’ is an over used word.

      I honestly dig your blogs John. They are just worded so well.

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      • John 8:00 am on April 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        My friend says Sans a lot. That’s an ass whoopin! I hate it. I also hate the phrases: “Think outside the box” and “good to go” Hey, I’m good to go! Fuck off! LOL

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    • scabiesoftherat 11:45 pm on April 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      He was a helluva piano player, wasn’t he? I’ve played piano since I was 13 and up until this very day. I still can’t wrap my head around the crap that he pulled off with those keys. The mind boggles. His sense of musical timing was second to none and I think that’s what made him. He just had that perfect internal metronome inside him

      If I had the money, honestly? I would buy Wonderland. I would turn it into a bed and breakfast. I would make EVERYTHING exactly as it was on the night of the murders. The book on the coffee table, the albums with 3 dog night at the front, the candle, the roll top desk , the furniture. The house would be set up exactly like that night….You know why? Because people would love to stay there. I stayed at Lizzie Borden’s house for two nights. It was a bed and breakfast. (My wife made me. She said I had to get over my phobia of looking under beds as a 43 year old man. It stemmed from the Elizabeth Montgomery made for tv movie that aired back in 1975. “The Legend Of Lizzie Borden”. That screwed me up for years, man….) People love to be privy to that slice of time that they study. I think everyone here would buy that house in Laurel Canyon should the funds and opportunity make themselves available. I know I would. The thing is, it’s not that great. It’s a two bedroom house with a nook kitchen. That’s it. Functional at best. It’s just the history, man. I would also leave striped tube socks on the steps to the upper bedroom for effect….LOL

      (Sorry about the bandwidth on this reply. didn’t mean for it to go so long…)

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      • John 8:02 am on April 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I saw a video where he played a song, then played at at half speed, then played it backwards. WTF. He was sharp!

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      • John W 4:12 pm on April 10, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        A wonderland bed n breakfast is a great idea! A two day stay culminating with some primal scream therapy on the second night… And peaches and cottage cheese served before bed. Thanks Scabies, that’s something we’d have to get past the Wonderland Homeowners Association, those Nazis LOL

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  • John 12:54 pm on March 31, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Scott Thorson Enters The Fray 

    Yes, we knew the day would come when Scott Thorson would enter the Wonderland story. And not a day too soon!

    When the article below was published in 1982, Scott was suing Liberace, after a whirlwind relationship which started years earlier when Scott was 17 and Liberace was 57 years old. That leads us to believe that Scott was partying hard over a year earlier, during his long, tough break-up with Liberace. Scott was out of control and Liberace literally threw him out on the street. Scott could easily have been at Eddie Nash’s house the night of the murders when Holmes was being slapped around and threatened. I believe that much is true.

    Fabulous coat.

      Fabulous coat.

    Another thing that was going on in October, 1982 was that a prima-donna named John Holmes was in the middle of his not-so publicized hunger strike. He lost 11 lbs. and survived on cookies and candy, not too mention chain smoking and yoga. By this time, Johnny Wadd had had just about about enough of jail on the contempt charge. Another inmate even tried to poke out his eye with pencil while John worked as a magazine or library trustee. As luck would have it, John Holmes would finally agree to talk in a few more weeks. You see, he was feeling safer after Eddie and Greg were eventually in jail for drug possession sentences which were finally levied in 1982.

    A brocade dinner jacket.

    A brocade dinner jacket.

    Scott Thorson would eventually make a deal in 1988 to testify against Eddie Nash. This was mostly to avoid some of his own drug charges. Where was he in 1981? He was partying his ass off on Liberace’s dime. Rumor has it that he even allowed for Eddie to lay low at one of Liberace’s homes in L.A. right after the killings. The Wonderland Murders must not have kept him awake at night. It’s hard to have a conscience in the freebase game. Hell, that’s a shame but I keep forgetting that freebase people are full of shit, as Det. Nico said.

    I will report more soon, but first let’s review this awesome article, brocade dinner jacket and all! This is almost styled like a Nat’l Enquirer gossip piece. Awesome. Btw, I think Scott and Liberace settled out of court for a few cars and fraction of the desired $$ amount.

    The Glasgow Herald. Oct 15, 1982.

    The Glasgow Herald. Oct 15, 1982.

     

     
    • scabiesoftherat 12:15 am on April 3, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Noguchi is still alive. He’s 86. He wrote his spell-binding, page-turner, tour-de-force, “CORONER!!” I think in ’83. I don’t imagine he’s doin’ a lotta slicin’ and dicin’ as of late,…but he’s still with us. Probably drinkin’ brandy in the dark and smokin’ cigarettes in his underwear….somewhere…..in this crazy, mixed up world. He had an assistant. The dude’s name was “Finken”. The dude would go ahead of Tom and take liver temperatures of the dead famous people. With a name like Finken and doing what he does, it’s almost like something out of Young Frankenstein, ain’t it?

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    • scabiesoftherat 10:54 pm on April 1, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I just did a Google search on those guys. Lange is still alive, but his partner in the OJ Simpson trial recently died. Phil Vannater died. Souza is now a screewriter and producer of Hollywood movies. He did a film called Hollywood Homicide that starred Harrison Ford and Josh Hartnett. I can find nothing on Tomlinson

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      • John 7:02 am on April 2, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, that’s him. Thanks.
        Tomlinson was vice squard, so in my opinion, vice cops are all a bit shady. That’s where Internal Affairs is always looking….for trouble!!

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        • John 7:03 am on April 2, 2013 Permalink

          And Beder Clifton died last fall. He was the Sacramento cop that knew and investigated Ronnie. I wonder what the coroner, Thomas Noguchi is doing, or if he is alive?

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    • scabiesoftherat 10:52 pm on March 31, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Wait a minute. Hold the phone here….Are you tellin’ me Liberace was gay?

      (never saw that one coming…)

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      • localarts 10:17 am on April 1, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Of all the people associatd with Wonderland, either directly or indirectly, Thorson, Susan Launius, and Eddie Nash are the only ones left also the other killers may still be kicking. Still believe there were more than Holmes and three others that night.

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        • John W 12:17 pm on April 1, 2013 Permalink

          Yes, I think one of the cops died last year, either Lange, Souza or Tomlinson… Anyone know?

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  • John 8:33 am on March 28, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    The Nash Robbery And The Aftermath 

    According to David Lind, the gang used Liquid Band-Aid on their fingertips during the Nash robbery. This was to avoid leaving fingerprints and to allow them to be more nimble with their hands; tying people up, holding guns, searching the house for drugs and valuables, and to open the safe. The Liquid Band-Aid idea was allegedly Barbara Richardson’s, as she and Joy had attended the planning meetings for the robbery.

    When the gang arrived back at Wonderland, Lind immediately pointed at Holmes and told Ron Launius not to tell Holmes anything. Joy and Barbara left and headed to the Canyon Store for cigs and booze, while John paced and waited in the living room. Billy, Ron and Dave were splitting up and taking inventory of the loot in Ron’s bedroom.  They hid most of the drugs and cash there, and brought out some drugs and cash to party with and also to give John and Tracy their shares. 

    Susan Launius arrived the morning of Tuesday, June 30, 1981. It was the day after the robbery and the day before the murders. I am not sure if Lind met her or not before he left that day. Ron either flew her down from Yuba City or Marysville, or picked her up in Tujunga, north of Burbank. She was said to have lived in Tujunga in the early newspaper accounts of the murders. It would have taken Ronnie an hour or two to drive there and bring her back to Wonderland that day. Susan stated that she was wearing blue jeans, brown heels and a top upon arrival at the house. In the crime scene video, you can see a big suitcase in Ron’s room. I don’t know what she did in Tujunga or up north for a living or if she lived with family or a friend. Early news articles for the murders list her age at 25, others at 29. I think 29 was correct or she would have been 15 when she married Ron in 1971. 19 years old sounds more appropriate. Oh! …an interesting thing to note is… during her courtroom testimony, Susan only remembers seeing Ron and you guessed it… Joy Miller!

    It's a shame that Joy only had two lines in the movie. The deleted scene with she and Holmes is funny.

    It’s a shame that Joy only had two lines in the movie. The deleted scene with she and Holmes is funny. I found this pic on a foot fetish web site as I was searching for Joy Miller via Google Images. Classic internet. I love you.

    So, Joy must have made quite an impression on Susan. I also find it interesting, that no matter what is said about Ron, he was at least trying to get back together with his estranged wife. A reconciliation, a new start so to speak. Not many drug-crazed murdering maniacs do that sort of thing, in my opinion. Ronnie now had “long time money” as well. But who knows… in six months he probably would have been broke again.

    Nash did not need to be a genius to figure out who had robbed him. Holmes had just left the Nash house a few minutes before the gang invaded the home. Holmes had also been there three times in the early morning, doing freebase and unlocking doors. Of course, Nash and Diles could put two and two together. The Gang and Holmes were idiots to overlook the obvious. They even ignored Tracy McCourt’s concerns once they were back at the house. It was all drugs, drugs, drugs. McCourt was the only person who was scared when they arrived back at Wonderland. He went home to North Hollywood a short while later, on his own. I wonder where he was when he saw the news reports two days later…?

    Summa baby Bummaa!

    Summa baby Bummaa!

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    The Robbery and Aftermath

    David Lind: At Nash’s there was a chain-link gate that we just pushed open; we went to the sliding-glass doors that were left open by Holmes — and entered the guest bedroom. There was a doorway leading into the hallway, and I saw Gregory Diles, the bodyguard, a 300-pound black man, coming out of the kitchen with a serving tray in his hands.

    I shouted, “Freeze! Police! You are under arrest!”

    And then Ronnie and Billy also threw down on Eddie Nash.

    I had a leather case containing a San Francisco police officer’s badge, and we all identified ourselves as police officers, and we were all armed. So we handcuffed Gregory Diles and lay him on his stomach. But while I was cuffing Diles, Ronnie bumped my arm and the gun went off.

    Tracy McCourt: I was sitting in the car waiting for them when I heard a real loud noise and knew it had to be a gunshot. It sounded like a Magnum, but I calmed down by telling myself that any of the neighbors would have thought it was a load of lumber falling off a truck.

    Dodge D50 4x4 Pick Up. Was this Billy's or Ron's vehicle? Source: LAPD Crime Scene Video

    Dodge D50 4×4 Pick Up. Was this Billy or Ron’s vehicle? Source: LAPD Crime Scene Video

    David Lind: When the shot went off, Eddie Nash immediately fell to his knees. Diles wasn’t shot or anything, he just suffered some powder burns and bled a little.

    So I finished handcuffing him and laid him on the floor and put a throw rug over his head so he couldn’t see what we were doing. Eddie Nash was on his knees with his hands behind his head. Then Ron and Billy took Nash into his bedroom and I followed.

    Eddie was asked to lie facedown on the carpet of his bedroom. Ron went to a wardrobe closet where there was a floor safe, and asked Nash for the combination. Then Ronnie opened the safe and withdrew a half-pound zip-lock storage bag, which was approximately three-quarters full of cocaine.

    The Wonderland Spanish DVD Cover and New Title: "Excesses: At Your Own Risk"

    The Wonderland Spanish DVD Cover and New Title: “Excesses: At Your Own Risk”

    John had told us earlier that there was also a laboratory vial — approximately eight to ten inches in length, half an inch in diameter, full of heroin, which he called China white — and that it was in the area of Eddie Nash’s dresser. We picked that up, and also an attaché case full of money and jewelry. We found everything.

    Inside the attaché case was a considerable sum of money in twenties, fifties, and hundred-dollar bills, and a considerable amount of jewelry — gold jewelry and diamonds.

    Then I taped up Gregory Diles and removed the handcuffs, because the handcuffs could have been identified by what was engraved on them, and went to the bedroom and taped up Eddie Nash and threw a sheet over him.

    1975 Ford Granada. This type of car was used by the gang in the robbery. The movie used a different car.

    1975 Ford Granada. This type of car was used by the gang in the robbery. The movie used a different car.

    After that, as we were getting ready to leave, Ronnie started to question Diles about the whereabouts of the rest of the stuff, then pulled out a knife and started to cut him, but I told Ronnie, “We’ve got everything we need here. Let’s go.”

    So I opened the front door and signaled to Tracy McCourt. He started to back the car up. Then we all split.

    John was waiting inside the door when we arrived back at Wonderland Avenue. The first thing he wanted to know was exactly what had happened. He was very excited about it, but I told Ron not to tell him anything.

    The condos where Eddie lives in Tarzana. Present day.

    The condos where Eddie lives in Tarzana. Present day.

    David Lind: There were five of us involved in the robbery. Ronnie Launius, Billy Deverell, and myself were to [each] receive 25 percent of what we took. And John Holmes and Tracy McCourt were to split the remaining 25 percent of the drugs and the money. Everybody was in a pretty good mood after the success of the robbery, and we just got high.

    I don’t remember when John left. I do remember when I left. I left approximately nine or ten o’clock the next morning (Tuesday).

    And that was the last time I saw any of them alive.

    "This town is a f**king desert!"

    “This town is a f**king desert!”

    Source:

    The Other Hollywood by Legs McNeil

    Susan Launius’ Testimony at John Holmes Trial

    David Lind’s Testimony and Statements to Police

     
    • John 9:48 pm on August 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

    • Pixie 4:36 pm on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Am now reading the Souza and Lange book, and in this book, it says that Jamie McGuan was also present during this robbery. She was allegedly high on heroin and in and out of consciousness during the robbery. I’m surprised David dint’ mention it.

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    • Oklahoma Cowboy 8:31 pm on July 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Pardon my ignorance, but has anyone considered Tracy McCourt as a possible suspect? His alibi of going home alone is pretty thin.

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      • JohnnyFan 4:12 pm on September 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Tracy was too weak and stupid to take down Ronnie, let alone bludgeon four people to death. That’s why he was relegated to duty as their wheel-man for the Nash hit. Besides, Lind had taken away Tracy’s gun.

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    • localarts 10:07 am on March 29, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I remember David lind said a guy by the name of Jimmy Arias a.k.a Mr Vegas showed up at wonderland that morning to put launius on a plane for his court appearance. It was Arias that called Lind ane told him not to go to the wonderland house, everybody was dead. I’ve always wondered who Arias was.

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      • John 12:58 pm on March 29, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Interesting! I had not read of this before. I know that one of Holmes producer buddies, “Amerson”?, told people a hit man showed up to take down the gang for some debt they owed or stole…he told Amerson, “they were already dead when I got there”.

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        • localarts 4:34 pm on March 29, 2013 Permalink

          That was Linds testimony in the the first trial. The hitman Amerson is referring to was a man by the name of Paul Kelly. Kelly was one of Howard Cook’s enforcers and was subpoenaed to testify in the Nash trial, Kelly took the 5th.

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    • localarts 6:45 pm on March 28, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I remember reading that launius had a July 1st court date in Sacremento for driving a stolen car… I wonder if that 75 Granada was the second car he stole?? That Dodge was probably a neighbors vehicle.

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      • John 7:48 am on March 29, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, I read about his court date also. I don’t think he was planning on going, dead or not. hahaa

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  • John 8:19 am on March 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Some Facts & A Few Awesome Clips From WONDERLAND 

    A few tidbits about the film:

    Christina Applegate grew up near the site of the Wonderland murders and remembers seeing the bloody mattresses on the street, which led to her agreeing to take a relatively small role in the film.

    In the movie, Val Kilmer (as John Holmes) wears a chain around his neck that holds a ring. The ring is was the actual wedding band that John Holmes gave his wife, Sharon, when they got married in 1965. Sharon loaned it to Val to give him good luck on the movie. When the movie was over, Sharon then gave the ring to Dawn Schiller. Val Kilmer and Josh Lucas are said to have stayed at the Wonderland home, while preparing for their roles.

    In the real life story, John did not call Eddie Nash after the robbery at his place. Rather, John was spotted by some of Nash’s associates in Hollywood at the building where John had his answering service. They noticed that John was wearing some of the jewelry that was stolen in the robbery and immediately took him to Nash for questioning. Dawn Schiller says John told her that after the murders, Diles made Holmes walk all the way back to his car, which was probably 8 or 10 miles away from Wonderland. He was said to have walked and run the distance, with blood all over him.

    The movie did not portray that, while John was being beaten up at Nash’s house, Liberace’s lover, Scott Thorson, was present. However, the film does show several shadowy figures standing around the room. It was Thorson’s testimony that eventually led to the indictment of Eddie Nash by federal authorities. Some have speculated however, that Thorson’s testimony is flawed and exaggerated, as he was wanting to cut a deal for his own drug arrest and charges. If Diles had borrowed Thorson’s car to go commit the murders, there would have been blood all in that car. The interior could have possibly been ruined or beyond cleaning.

    When the film played the Toronto Film Festival, one of the promotional items handed out was a ruler that was 13 1/2 inches long.

    And now…some excellent scenes from Wonderland the movie:

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    Dave lets Ron do too much blow again… you know how he gets:

    Ron tells Holmes to knock himself out…

    John Holmes says Hello.

    Wa Hoooo!!

    Eddie tells Paris Hilton to get outta here:

     
    • Mark C 4:11 pm on November 8, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I never get tried watching this movie. I get a kick watching all the actors, Tim Blake Nelson he really did a very good job acting in this movie ( “Unbelievable just ***king Unbelievable” is a great line he say’s watching Holmes walk in, Ron tell him “Knock yourself out John” do bunch lines of Coke, steal small amount and just walk back out of the house, ) Josh Lucas lines is also well know on this Blog. I am pretty sure I saw somewhere- Its on Trivia on IMDb Wonderland web site, Both Josh Lucas and Val Kilmer spent the night in the actual Wonderland house on the anniversary of the murders. That been well worth hiding in that house all day long in the heat waiting just to jump out and scare them around 3:00am, If I was for sure known neither one was armed. I bet both be trying to pay you for a lifetime not to tell anybody they pee in there pants, I say if I was done like that I would pee in my pants too.

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    • scabiesoftherat 11:26 pm on March 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      That whole movie was one awesome clip. I remember when I first watched it. After it was over, I sat there for five minutes staring at a blank TV. I then watched it again. That movie had an incredible 1981 “feel” to it. Microwaves, pay-phones, mirrored walls. those athletic white socks with multi-colored stripes at the top…
      I know the outside of the original house was used when Dawn and john pulled up in front of it. Oh, by the way, Mike Dorsey and Scott Michaels got inside the actual house and have interspliced the crime scene vid to the here and now type thing. Fade in, fade out. I hope it lets me embed the link here. If it doesn’t, whack this reply, John. No use jamming up the space with a useless comment

      Here it is: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?layout=tablet&client=mv-google&ipadtype=2&utcoffset=-240&v=3IZurMszUhQ&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2F%3Frdm%3Dmk0win10h&has_verified=1

      I take it the inside shots of “Wonderland” were done in a studio. But they sure look like they came from the inside of the house. John, you do have the links I posted, right?

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      • scabiesoftherat 11:52 pm on March 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I, too, agree that Lucas should have gotten an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. Even if he didn’t have Launius pegged to a T., he sure had something in that performance. It was out of this world. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it. It’s like the Big Lebowski. Who could make that crap up? It’s a role every actor would ever want. I mean, you get to throw stereo components through a plate glass window and shove a gun in Eric Bogosian’s face. Personally, I would want to play that role,….or Jimmy Stewart’s role in Rear Window. He gets to drink brandy and kiss Grace Kelly. That would be number on on my hit list. J.S.

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        • John W 3:49 pm on March 27, 2013 Permalink

          Big Lebowski!! My other fave of all time. Yes, i caught Wonderland in 2007 on Encore when I was going to crash. No commercials. Im glad I stayed up to watch it. I did not sleep worth a shit that night. People/Critics dismiss this movie, but if Quentin Tarantino had made the same film, they’d go ape shit. Big T’s movies are mostly flashback scenes… Plot devices like that. Long Live Wonderland!!!

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      • John 9:22 am on March 27, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the links. I lost that one and will post it soon. That video illustrates the best layout of the house I have seen. I would like a floor plan but can’t find one.

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