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  • John 8:37 am on August 5, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    Requiem for a Heavy Wadd – August, 1988 Article 

    Great article…

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    To read a big section of the lengthy 1983 Hustler interview with Holmes that I found, go here. It’s on my blog.

    This 1988 article is long, no pun intended. Caution: Profanity below!! I did not alter the photo, someone else did I guess. You will notice a few of the usual inconsistencies with the facts of his life and of other stuff, albeit with what we know about John today…but it’s an entertaining piece nonetheless. Hell, it’s over 25 years old. As the Big Lebowski once said “new shit has come to light!”. Hopefully Jill can drop a few lines in the comments about this gem!

    Enjoy~

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    August 1988 August 1988 – Hey, I’ve got $4.50.

    Requiem for a Heavy Wadd

    Courtesy of Hustler Magazine – Anthony R. Lovett – August 1988 

    John C. Holmes’s journey from scum sack to body bag.

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    • smauge 4:55 am on August 12, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Haha nice G string!

  • John 10:06 am on August 1, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    The Return Of Ron Launius! 

    I’m still here.

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    Not really. Just some small info to keep your fires burning…

    In June of 1957, David Lind applied for Social Security disability benefits but he was denied. Disability type was not listed. (document found via cross-reference of his mother’s name)

    After having reached the lawful minimum of living in the United States for five years, and with gainful employment, in 1956, Ed applied for his Naturalization in the USA via Milwaukee where he of course owned a restaurant called “Eat’n Time”. One of his female relatives owned or worked at Shamalie’s Dinnette restaurant. Even at this point, he was already living in a big brick home with his wife Maria from Milwaukee and his baby daughter. Seven dollars my ass! The Nash was smart: the old “marry a citizen and have an anchor baby” trick! …and then your newfound citizenship simply consists of filling out some paperwork. In 1956, Ed’s first…

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  • John 7:55 pm on July 29, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    The Beach and the Pole – The Execution of C. Cecil Dennis, Jr. 

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    by John Weghorst

    Author’s Note

    There is quite a bit of false information out on web sites, other blogs and discussion boards regarding the coup and the executions. Over the years, these inaccuracies have bothered me to the point of writing my own article or essay about the events of April, 1980 in Liberia. The information below is true and pieced together from trustworthy sources and interviews. My sources are firm, taken from former ministers and other eyewitness testimony which includes newspaper interviews, firsthand accounts of journalists and diplomats and also from depositions taken from witnesses at a few Truth and Reconciliation Council hearings.

    I am not from Liberia, but I have always been fascinated with the country and hope to visit someday soon.

    Thank you for reading.
    God bless Liberia.

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    The Executions of April 22, 1980 in Monrovia, Liberia

    Who is Charles Cecil Dennis, Jr.?

    Born 1931, Montserrado…

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    • Patrick E 1:44 am on August 4, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      John, when or what year was Eddie in Milwaukee? I thought he emigrated to Southern Cal in early 50’s? Is Debra or Maria still in Milwaukee? Would love to contact them. Does he still have relatives in Milwaukee. I can go to the local library to find info on his original restaurant and where it was located? Any further info would be awesome John, thank you! Still looking for friends of Ron and Billy, Paul Kelly, Mr Vegas, Fat Howard? Contact me. Thank you.

      • John 11:17 am on August 4, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        He first landed there in 1950. Was a machinist, then ran a diner. About 5 years later he fled his marriage and kid, went to LA.

  • John 7:53 pm on July 29, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    by John Weghorst Author’s Note There is quite a bit of false information out on web sites, other blogs and discussion boards regarding the coup and the executions. Over the years, these inaccuracies have bothered me to the point of writing my own article or essay about the events of April, 1980 in Liberia. The […]
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  • John 7:49 pm on July 29, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    Holmes In 1983 Hustler Interview & 1983 Playboy Article 

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    I was aware of the Playboy article in 1983, but I did not know about the Hustler interview which Jill mentioned over the weekend. I found part of it and am trying to find the rest.

    There is also that elusive Playboy article from the same year. I was going to surprise everyone with a post but I have never found it. The April, 1983 Playboy article about Holmes and the murders seems like it would be similar to the 1989 Rolling Stone piece by Mike Sager. I am not sure if it’s an interview and I cannot find anything but the magazine cover. I have been looking for months, and the best I can do is order all 12 issues from 1983 on eBay. No thanks. I’ll forget they are in the garage, and down the road my next girlfriend will find them. Never fails.

    Let me know if…

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  • John 7:43 pm on July 29, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    Porn Star’s Death Doesn’t Make For Humor 

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    When John Holmes died in 1988, a local writer for the Texan, the school newspaper for the University of Texas, wrote a scathing rebuttal to an earlier hit piece in The Austin Chronicle (which is a free city paper found at any bus stop). The original column which I cannot find now, was titled something like “I’m glad he’s dead”. It was very brief, rude and is best summarized below by Lee Nichols. It’s strange, because as heated as both articles were, neither mentioned the Wonderland saga. Quite a bizarre war of words, and it happened 25+ years ago. In 1988, people still did not understand AIDS. Hell, I still remember the bad jokes. Famine, cancer and AIDS are just not good topics for comedy.

    Have a nice weekend.

    1988 1988

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  • John 7:27 pm on July 29, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    I can see how after a long war, when the final battle to save your way of life is over and all is lost, that somehow it could be more dignified to end one’s life, than to face the humiliation of defeat. To the victor go the spoils. All throughout human history, suicides occur en […]
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  • John 6:50 pm on July 7, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    The 7 Seas Restaurant in 1963 

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    Thanks to Vintage L.A. for sharing this classic photo of Hollywood Blvd. The 7 Seas building was recently sold again in July, 2013 for crazy money. The previous owner purchased it from Eddie Nash in 2007. Ed also had his main office upstairs for his umbrella corporation “Adel, Inc.” which I guess governed some of his business ventures and probably contained a large safe. That’s according to a corporate directory I once found. This location was a mere hop, skip and jump for Greg Diles to drive Ed to from his house in Studio City.

    2007-

    The building’s seller, infamous impresario Eddie Nash, agreed to part with the retail and office structure for an undisclosed price.

    …Eddie Nash, who owned the building for almost 50 years, said he finally agreed to sell after a CIM executive “wore me out.” (oh Ed, you so craaazay!)

    …Much of the time Nash owned…

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  • John 6:49 pm on July 7, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    The Wonderland Timeline 

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    I have started this timeline of events because the Wonderland saga can get really confusing… especially when you are trying to figure out Eddie Nash’s legal woes, arrests, other crimes, etc. That guy could write a book on the legal system all by himself.

    Please post anything missing in the comments section at the bottom of the page.

    Thanks!

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    Wonderland Timeline of Events

    Late 1940s

    Adel Nasrallah arrives in Southern California from the middle east (Palestine). He was born near Ramallah in 1929 is of Palestinian Christian descent.

    1952

    Eddie Nash stars in the Cisco Kid episode “Quarter Horse”. He is credited as “Eddie Nash”, and his character is called “Nash”.

    Circa 1950s

    Eddie owns Beef’s Chuck hot dog stand on Hollywood Blvd. Decades later during the 1980s, a woman with an autistic son whom Ed…

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    • donjuan951 4:21 am on July 8, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Awesome info brother John keep it up. I’m 50 miles from that very place

    • donjuan951 4:22 am on July 8, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Didnt know he had a cameo

  • John 5:51 pm on March 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply  

    McCourt In Police Shooting 

    Thanks to critic for this gem from the past… around 1989ish, just in time for Tracy to get protection from LA County and anyone else before/during the first Nash-Diles trial.

    $48.72

    Another thing Tracy was caught forging was more prescriptions, pre-Wonderland.

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    • Bobby Heasley 2:28 am on March 2, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Wait wtf? As I’m reading this article, my first thoughts were; ‘ONLY 6 MOS. in jail for SHOOTING A POLICE OFFICER?? How is this possible??’ … Then super quickly my next thoughts were; ‘Wait… Why is he receiving ANY jail time at all? If the police officer “accidentally discharged” his own weapon, why was he being charged with ANY crime at all?? (fraud, forgery not withstanding obv.)’

      This case, the people attached to it and even the Wonderland home itself has so many twist and subplots and best of all… fascinating stories and the stories never end. And the crazy thing is (aside from the speculation of Launius being involved in at least 28 murders) most of the stories seem to have some hint of truth to them.

      Bobby H.

      • localarts 11:11 am on March 4, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        For many years I was highly skeptical of the 28 murders Launius was reportedly involved in. Even going so far as to question Roger Jacobs credibility…..I WAS WRONG. Susan Launius told Nils Grevillius that in fact the story about Mexican drug deal / double cross ( Lainius killing her captors ) is true. Tracy McCourt said “Ron is on a whole different level, he kill’s people” And finally, Tom Lange said Ron Launius was a contract killer. If Ron Launius was a contract killer, who sought out his services? The mafia? Just imagine hiring Ron Launius to run a debt collection company!

        • Bobby Heasley 1:21 pm on March 4, 2019 Permalink

          I imagine Ron would have been terrible at it… You can’t collect from someone if they’re dead. If I had to pick 1 member from the wonderland gang to collect a debt on my behalf – no question I’m picking David Lind. In my opinion, Lind was a beast. I’ve read that he could scare the #!*% out of someone just by giving them a look.
          My next pick would be Billy and Joy, but only if they collected together, as a team.

        • criticextraordinaire 6:52 pm on March 9, 2019 Permalink

          I think 28 was the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many people he blew away down in México. He was really pissed.

        • Patrick Engeleiter 6:26 am on June 12, 2019 Permalink

          I have a good source from the LA Police Dept that Bill and Joy were under surveillance from 6am to 8pm every day. The LA Police came on to Ron Launius by accident watching the house. Ron was known to the Sacramento Police more than LA. The only reason nobody was watching the house when the murders took place Is the drug informants convinced the detectives on the case no heroin sales happened after 7-8pm. Heroin buys get their fix every morning and most heroin dealers close shop by 7-8pm. Most of Joy’s business had become primarily heroin by 1981 mostly due to her and Bills addiction. Everyone in the house was addicted to heroin. The coke was a side venture or party drug. Wonderland drive is extremely narrow and two cars can’t even pass on the street. My understanding is most people would park and walk up the hill to their house. Now they had parties but not like it has been reported and the last few months prior to the murders I believe it had calmed down. They all knew they were being watched. Everyone in the house had pending cases and was looking at Jail time. The reason they didn’t split after the crime is the pending cases. In fact we all know Ron was due in court the morning his body was found. It is possible they thought they had time to get out of Dodge, that is why they were still at the house. I don’t think any of the gang ever thought John would sell them out as he would be putting his own life in danger, why would he do that? They never thought John would be dumb enough to call Eddie or be so dumb as to be caught with jewelry on his person. He could have denied involvement had he used his acting skills and not let on or admit involvement. We still don’t know exactly what led Eddie to John and the wonderland gang but I believe it had more to do with the guns and a comment Ron had made during the robbery about “finally taking his guns home”. I believe that is what initially put Ed on John and from there they knew John could not stand up to any interrogation and would tell them everything. That blew their cover, they would have been better off killing everyone including John and Tracy. Ron knew deep inside himself it would be John or Tracy who would fold if there ever was any questions. It just shows you how clouded everyone’s judgement had become. Their addiction overcame any reasonable judgment they had as good criminals. This robbery was supposed to be everyone’s ticket out of the life but it ended up taking their lives instead.

        • criticextraordinaire 12:39 pm on October 13, 2019 Permalink

          Well Tracy is the guy who proved to be the real survivor in this story, and he managed to keep his mouth shut.

      • dirtboy068 10:16 pm on March 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        my thoughts as well. Wtf, and then why was he charged at all. talk about crazy

    • localarts 2:49 pm on March 4, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I agree. David Lind would be perfect debt collector. He was after all a bounty hunter. One has to wonder just how connected Launius was to underworld figures. Of those 28, how manny were committed between 78-81? Maybe John can get his family to open up.

    • Mirko 7:22 am on March 5, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Hi John, I came across this podcast on YouTube. Did you know the story between 26.00 and 27.00? Just curious…

    • Localarts 11:21 am on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Critic, why do you believe 28 is just scratching the surface? Ted Bundy admitted to 30 before he was executed but many believe it was over 100. Clearly, both men were psychopaths and murdered for different reasons. It would be interesting to know where Roger Jacobs got his info as it relates to Launius.

    • Bobby Heasley 11:54 am on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I still think its highly unlikely that Ron, a full-blown heroin addict, would be capable of working as a hit-man and be able to get away with 28+ murders without first getting himself killed or caught. I’ve never been a hit-man and I’ve never tried heroin, so maybe I’m wrong and just don’t know? But I don’t think so

      • Localarts 8:08 pm on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        There’s a lot of mystery surrounding Ron Launius simply because very little is known about him. You hear all these crazy stories which may or may not be true. Tom Lange said Launius was a contract killer and Tom Lange has a lot of credibility. One thing I do know for 100% absolute certainly, had Ron Launius survived that night he would have killed John Holmes free of charge, No contract needed!

        • Bobby Heasley 6:22 am on March 18, 2019 Permalink

          David Lind & Tracy McCourt had 7 years to get their revenge on John Holmes, yet they did nothing and John Holmes was a very touchable man – he was not in any protection program, he didn’t go in to hiding… he had no bodyguards, no security and he didn’t move a large crew to help protect him – and yet, he remained untouched until passing away from AIDS 7 years later.

          I don’t think the wonderland gang was as tough or connected as people today make them out to be. I think that these guys were nothing more than every other drug dealer I’ve ever met… tough talking with an extra $80 bucks in their pocket.

          Eddie Nash on the other hand . . . It took him less than 2 days after the robbery to find and have John Holmes brought to him. The wonderland gang was nothing even close to being in the same league of criminals that Eddie Nash belonged to.

          So, what would Ron Launius had done IF he survived that night… I don’t think he would have done anything.

        • Patrick Engeleiter 5:52 am on June 12, 2019 Permalink

          Where did all the info on Launius come from? Who originally had the Launius story about Mexico? Was it Roger Jacobs and if so does he cite any sources in his book “long time money?” The other stories about Ron either came from Susan or Larry Herschmann aka Cherokee. I wish I would have spoken to Larry before he passed away. I had a line on several good interviews for a documentary and my three biggest interviews died, Larry and two others that knew Eddie very well. I would like to do a documentary and come back to LA to interview some people who were close to the case and get the exact list of who committed these murders. At this point we know 3 of the 4 or 5 who went into the house are dead, both Diles brothers and John. There is one more and It could be the so called Israeli God Father but I think he was too soft to take part in any murders. It had to be one of Greg or Sam’s boys. I believe there is one person still out there who was in that house that night. I am raising money to do a documentary and the first thing I am doing is going to the neighborhood where Greg grew up to find some of his friends. I’m sure some people are still in his old neighborhood who knew Greg well. Anyone who wants to invest will be listed as a producer. Please contact me if interested. I am hiring a film crew and I believe if we do a good documentary with good interviews we can sell to Netflix or one of the current crime channels. I found a local film crew and want to start interviews in August in LA. Contact me if anyone is interested. I have some info on Paul Kelly and where he grew up, I am still looking for people who worked with Bill Vlick. At this point all crimes are past prosecutable time. I was about to fly to Vegas to interview Bill Vlick at his nursing home in Vegas and he passed away. Bill has no funeral and nobody ever visited him or picked up his possessions. In fact he had a trust from his longtime girlfriend Rose McKee. Anyone with info on the Diles brothers, Paul Kelly, Ed, et al please contact me. I have two people close to Ed i am speaking with this week. John I would love to collaborate with you in some capacity as you are the leader on this subject. We need a film on this case that seriously puts together who committed the crime and I believe the last person in that room is still alive. However it is possible that person was some crony or LA gangbanger that Greg and Same knew but I believe it was someone close to Ed and Greg as Ed was too smart to send anyone not close to him or Greg. Please contact me if anyone has info-message/text me 414-306-1667. Thank you.

      • dirtboy068 10:20 pm on March 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        I’m with you on this. A drug addict getting away with alot of murders,even in that time period I think would be highly unlikely.

    • dirtboy068 10:12 pm on March 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Hi. I’m knew to the blog and wanted to say hi to everyone. After watching Wonderland ( one of my all time favorites) naturally I became fascinated by the whole unbelievable story. It’s something about the time in America, that Hollywood nights, the seeded underbelly of cocaine, and the effect it was starting to on society, that I can’t get enough of. I just read the autobiography ” High Concept” about Hollywood executive Don Simpson. Amazing read, highly recommend. How to see more post in the future and replies!!!!

      • John 2:09 pm on March 18, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Hi man, thanks and glad you found us. I am going to order that Don Simpson book asap. I have always found his story do crazy

    • Localarts 6:32 pm on March 15, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Never heard that one, Mirko. Can’t say I’m surprised though.

    • Localarts 1:09 pm on March 19, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Bobby, I had the same mindset as you when I first read Roger Jacobs book “Long Time Money & Lot’s of Cocaine” back in 05. It sounded to outlandish. Like it was fabricated in order to “sensationalize” Ron Launius into something more than he really was. You’re right. Most every body else at Wonderland were nothing more than drug dealers and thieves. However, with everything we know now from his ex wife, detectives, David Lind, McCourt & Ton Lange, all the evidence suggests Launius was a killer. His body count is debatable but the general concensus is everybody was afraid of Ron Launius for a reason. You can draw your own conclusion but for me there’s too many credible sources that say otherwise.

      I think its kind of obvious David Lind was on the short list of people that want Holmes dead. Lind was not a dumb man. I’m sure David Lind knew he would be one of the first suspects police would look to had something happened to Holmes.

    • Bobby Heasley 5:51 pm on March 19, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Okay, how about this quesion:

      If the wonderland gang had killed Nash & Diles during the robbery (not doing that was their 2nd biggest mistake) what do you think would have ended up happening to the members of the gang?

      1. They don’t move to Hawaii, they don’t move period. They just sit around and get high off the Nash’s stash, sell a little to pay rent and make ends meet … until…

      2. John Holmes, for obvious reasons becomes a suspect in the “drug deal gone wrong double murder” (the media would have surely jumped on and ran with the ‘drug deal gone wrong’ headlines – they’ll correct it with barely a footnote once the facts completely surface, and some media outlets won’t correct it at all).

      3. Holmes foldes, snitches on his crew and cuts a deal to save himself… goes into the witness protection program.
      3a. Less than 1 year later, missing the attention of the spotlight, Holmes returns to porn and leaves the witness protection prgram. He dies from complications due to AIDS in 1988.

      4. Launius recieves the death penalty after being convicted. He dies in 1992 (liver failure) before the execution can be carried out.
      4a. Lind & Deverall are found guilty and receive life in prison – Lind appeals and due to his previous work as a law enforcement snitch, recieves an 18 to life sentence WITH the possibility of early parole….they both die in prison – Billy from old age, Lind at the hands of fellow inmates (albeit under mysterious circumstancea)
      4b. Barbara and Joy are charged as being accessories to murder –

      Joy pleads guilty, her ex-husband acting as her lawyer negotiates a 7 year sentence… for medical reasons (cancer) she’s released to home confinement 18 months later, dies in 1989.
      Barbara is found NOT guilty! She never folds, she never breaks.. she is released from custody, meets another man and lives the rest her life raising her children in relative anonymity.

      4c. Susan Launius is found guilty of being an accessory to murder after the fact… recieves a 5 year sentence. released from prison 2 1/2 years later in excellent health.

      5. Eddie Nash – his legacy builds and over time, Nash comes to be seen as one of the biggest organized crime bosses in modern history – in 1998 “inside sources” leak out infornation suspecting Nash of ordering 28 murders between 1964 thru 1978
      5a. Greg Diles legacy remains the same for a while, but eventually gets lost in the pages of history. In the movie, his character is played by Bruce Willis.

      • Localarts 12:48 pm on March 21, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        That’s a lot of speculation Bobby. What we do know to be as close to the facts as possible is: Launius was going to kill both Nash & Diles however, Deverell and Lind talked him out of it. Deverell also talked Launius out of killing the maid during the robbery of the pet store owner who owned the antique guns. Had Launius killed Nash & Diles as he intended to I’m sure any witness would have been killed as well once the heat came down.

      • Suleiman Hodali 8:05 am on April 25, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        hey bobby where did you locate this information that, “in 1998 “inside sources” leak out infornation suspecting Nash of ordering 28 murders between 1964 thru 1978” ? Curious where this was published. thanks

    • Bobby Heasley 1:42 pm on March 21, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      All witnesses? Are you sure about that?

      What about the girls? All three of them (Barbara, Joy & Susan) would have had basic knowledge of the robbery and who the victim was. Barbara & Joy (unsure of Susan) helped the guys with planning the robbery… or at the very least plans were made and names were talked about in front of the girls.

      Even if they don’t tell the girls that they killed Nash & Diles, it’s going to be a MAJOR news story carried by every outlet… they’re going to find out. At that point, all it take is one pissed-off and scorned girlfriend who wants to get even to walk into a police station… and, well… start getting even.

      I guess the conclusion that I’m coming to is that… either way, or anyway you look at it… these guys were f#$*! after robbing Nash. I don’t see any way out for the wonderland gang.

      If they kill Nash & Diles, they’d soon be caught and more than likely spend the rest of their lives in prison…
      If they let them both live… well, I don’t even need to speculate on that one.

      Anyways, I find this story to be very interesting. Especially since I’ve lived my entire life less than 10 minute’s from both the wonderland home and Nash’s house… and I have either been to or driven by almost every location written about about on this blog.
      I just wanted to try and spark some cnversation up on this blog. again.

      • Localarts 4:20 pm on March 21, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, it is a fascinating story. That’s cool you live close to all the infamous places mentioned on this blog. I still have my original copy of the Rolling Stone issue ” The Devil and John Holmes” from 1989. That was the first time I ever heard about Wonderland as we know it. I agree. The shit would have hit the fan either way. Launius would have died in prison, I’m almost certain of it. Things have slowed down a bit over the last year or so only because there has been so much info shared there’s not a lot to write about. John is however writing a book of his own about Wonderland and trying to interview the Launius family. Let’s all hope he successful!!

    • Localarts 6:12 pm on June 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I doubt there were any heroine sales at Wonderland. Tracy McCourt testified that “China White” was very hard to come by. That was more or less the whole premise for pawning the antique guns to Nash in the first place. Any available heroine at 8763 was probable for personal use. Its anyones guess where Roger Jacobs obtained his info on Ron Launius as it relates to the Mexican double cross.

      Nils Grevillius said Susan Launius told him in fact it did happen. A sit down interview with Susan Launius would be worth the cost of admission.

      • criticextraordinaire 11:12 am on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Ronnie would not have been dumb enough to keep a huge stash of drugs at his place, because that would have made him a target for people who rip off drug dealers (which was one of his lines of business). The big stash was elsewhere, with only enough stuff at the house to party.

        Note that when the Gang died, none of the loot from the Nash job was there. It might still be squirreled away somewhere for all we know.

        • Bobby Heasley 12:02 pm on July 13, 2019 Permalink

          Ronnie would have DEFINITELY been dumb enough to keep a huge stash of drugs at his place. People please… Don’t buy into this “he was smart” nonsense. Because it’s just not true. I have yet to come across one smart thing this guy ever did.

          And no bedlam at that house that night. I’m sorry to ruin the mythological idea you may have of Ron Launius but the truth is he died in bed. He was beaten to death with not even so much as a single defensive wound on his body. Even worst, he put his wife in danger and kept her in danger KNOWING that the danger was all to real. THAT IS NOT SMART!

          As far as what happened to the stash from the robbery? Who cares at this point? Whether it was fenced or stashed elsewhere, it doesn’t matter. These guys were like Pinky and the Brain… Except all of them WERE PINKY!! Jeesh.

        • criticextraordinaire 2:24 pm on July 14, 2019 Permalink

          Well if he was so dumb, how could he have outwitted the cops involving somewhere around 27 or so murders (not counting the Méxican deal)? True, on occasion he did some ill advised things… His ego wrote a check that his backside could not cash when he took on Eddie Nash. But when you’re one of the biggest coke distributors in the business, ego is part of the game.

          Cops hated him and for one reason… they usually could not pin anything on him.

        • Bobby Heasley 3:15 pm on July 14, 2019 Permalink

          Because he did not kill 27 people and he did NOT outwit the cops. After stupidly getting caught smuggling heroin inside the bodies of his fellow Marines and thereby getting thrown out of the Marines, he spent more time in prison than he did on the streets.

        • criticextraordinaire 7:23 pm on July 15, 2019 Permalink

          Sergeant Beder Clifton was the cop who observed that Launius was “the coldest person I have ever met in my life”. You don’t get a reputation like that with the Sacramento cops for soaking your hands in Ivory Liquid all day long.

          When word got out that Ronnie died, one cop commented “They won’t need many pallbearers.” When asked to elaborate, he went on to say “Because a trash can only has two handles.”

          Ronnie earned this sort of enmity because he usually got the better of the cops. Behind their facade of disdain for Ronnie was probably a modicum of professional respect.

        • Bobby Heasley 2:48 am on July 16, 2019 Permalink

          I agree with you 100% … Ron Launius was great @ being violent. He was a bully and heroin junkie who was really good at robbing people and hurting people. No more, no less. And make no mistake he would have robbed you, or me or anybody else if all that stood between him and getting high was to do so.

          But, he was not smart. If he was dumb enough to keep his wife in that house, knowing the danger was all too real… He would have been dumb enough to keep drugs in the house.

          For God’s sake, he TRUSTED John Holmes!?!? If you watch the interviews about Holmes in that documentary, even the dumbest – most bimbo and airheaded of pornstars knew not to trust John Holmes… none of them would have given that robbery plan a second thought. Not if it was John’s idea.

          Again, the only people in this story that I lend any credence to are the detectives who worked the case. And I can guarantee you critic, if you had the chance to ask one of the detectives about Ron Launius… intelligent would not be a word we would use to describe him.

        • Jim 10:19 am on September 26, 2019 Permalink

          They were selling it off their balcony, where else would it be. Lol

    • Bobby Heasley 2:00 am on July 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Even if Susan Launius agreed to do an interview, I don’t think you could put absolute trust in her to tell the truth… Every person involved with the Wonderland crew were known liars, there are no exceptions to that fact and Susan Launius was definitely involved with them. Being a victim doesn’t automatically make you a good person. It sucks what happened to her, for sure, but lets not forgot the web of people that she surrounded herself with and allowed in her life… You are the company you keep.

      • Localarts 3:09 pm on July 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Well, I would never consider Susan part of the “wonderland gang” as we know it. Her only association was her obvious marriage to Launius. I think she was the only one who didn’t have a police record, that doesn’t mean she was an angel either. If this were 1981, you’re probably right. I doubt she would be very forthcoming. But its 2019 and everybody we know to be associated with Wonderland is dead. I can’t imagine why Susan would try to hide anything about Ronnie at this point in her life. Although I’ve been wrong before, lol.

        • criticextraordinaire 11:17 am on July 13, 2019 Permalink

          Susan should approach somebody in Hollywood, and sell the rights to Ronnie’s life story. It could be an epic film… not unlike the arc of the movie “Scarface”. She could get a pretty good stipend from it. I’d pay good money to watch that movie, if only to see how the Mexican deal played out.

          With a similar ending. Like Tony Montana, Ronnie ends up deceased. But he goes down fighting in a blaze of retaliation. It must have been bedlam at 8763 when Nash’s crew showed up.

        • Bobby Heasley 11:32 am on July 13, 2019 Permalink

          You’re right critic… she should. If only she had Hollywood’s contact info. Lolzies

    • Bobby Heasley 3:18 am on July 2, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I agree, I don’t think Susan would try to hide anything either… The point I’m trying to make is that if she ever comes out with wild stories about being kidnapped by Mexican drug dealers and saved by Ronnie who happened to kill 8 Mexicans in the rescue attempt… We might all be foolish to believe her.

      • Localarts 11:02 am on July 2, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        This paticular account ( Mexico shoot out ) or whatever label you want to call it, has been reported by two separate sources. As the old saying goes.. “There are two sides to every story and then there’s the truth” If it is true, I can’t think of anyone who would have been more qualified to be in charge of border security than Ron Launius.

        • Localarts 4:22 pm on July 2, 2019 Permalink

          By the way Bobby, to my knowledge Susan Launius has never came forward or volunteered any information about Ronnie. Most of the background on Ron Launius has been through state or federal investigations. Over the years, most of that has filtered down to the general public. His immeadiate family refuses to discuss anything about him.

        • Bobby Heasley 7:28 pm on July 2, 2019 Permalink

          Actually, Im going off information that you previously wrote about back in March of this year…
          You said: “Susan Launius told Nils Grevillius that in fact the story about Mexican drug deal / double cross was true” and I’m not saying it’s not true, I’m just saying I have a hard time believing anybody who had anything to do with the Wonderland crew… Including Susan Launius. The only people in this story that I lend any credence to and can believe are the detectives and the police who worked on this case.

        • Bobby Heasley 7:30 pm on July 2, 2019 Permalink

          Actually, the saying goes “there are 3 sides to every story… His side, her side and the truth”

        • Bobby Heasley 7:34 pm on July 2, 2019 Permalink

          Where do the lies end and the truth begin? In this case, with these type of people, it’s impossible to ever be able to know the truth.

    • Localarts 6:54 am on July 3, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      That is correct. John scored an excellent interview with Nils which can be found on this blog. That is the content that I referenced back in March. It represents one piece of the Ron Launius puzzle. Whether or not Mexico blood bath ever took place, I think we can both agree he was a very dangerous individual.

    • localarts 8:12 pm on July 14, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Bobby, I know this may come as somewhat of a shock but Ron Launius was honorably discharged from the USAF.

    • localarts 8:31 pm on July 14, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I’m with Critic. I would be willing to break the bank if a full length motion picture about Ron Launius made it to the big screen. I think Josh Lucas should resurrect his role if the opportunity presented itself.

    • Patrick Engeleiter 12:10 am on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      John could you tell me more about Eddie’s connection with Milwaukee, WI? Does he have relatives still here? Daughter? Would like to interview her very much. Thanks John.

    • criticextraordinaire 5:02 am on August 8, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Remembering John Holmes, film king of the 1970s, here on his birthday, August 8th.

      If he were still with us, he’d be 75 years old and a huge internet sensation. Probably would have his own cable channel too. “All Johnny Wadd, all the time. 24/7/365.”

      • localarts 6:59 pm on August 8, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        That’s most likely true. Although, Bob Chinn would have something to say about that since he probably owns the rights to the “Johnny Wadd ” franchise.

        • criticextraordinaire 6:47 pm on August 9, 2019 Permalink

          I’m sure that John would of course cut Chinn in on.a piece of the action.

    • criticextraordinaire 5:33 am on August 21, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I just saw that there is a new Rambo movie coming out, Rambo: Last Blood. The premise is that Rambo goes into Mexico to rescue the daughter of one of his old army buddies.

      Word on the street is that this story is based on Ronnie Launius’ real-life situation when he had to rescue his wife from the Mexican drug dealers. Has anybody here heard anything about this?

      Excellent casting. If you’re gonna have somebody portray a vengeant Ronnie Launius, who better than John Rambo? Although I suspect that Rambo will not stop at snuffing just 9 kidnappers.

      • localarts 9:55 am on August 23, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        I kinda doubt Last Blood is based on the Mexican double cross involving Launius but you never know.. An accurate documentary / movie about Ronnie seems remote.

    • Bobby Heasley 12:02 am on August 24, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Word on the street? Lol … Who’s word would that be??

      • criticextraordinaire 6:29 pm on August 24, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        The street. People are talking. The similarities between this new Rambo installment and Ronnie’s Mexican caper are astounding.

        • Bobby Heasley 7:32 pm on August 24, 2019 Permalink

          Oh, gotcha

        • Jim 1:26 am on September 25, 2019 Permalink

          New Rambo movie based on Launius Mexico caper. LOL LMFAO

        • Kdimmick 9:59 pm on October 7, 2019 Permalink

          Hey Critic…….you still around?

        • criticextraordinaire 12:25 pm on October 13, 2019 Permalink

          Hey there kdimmick. Yep, I am still around. Always checking in to hear if there is anything new re: Wonderland or John Holmes.

    • localarts 9:06 pm on September 25, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      A fact based documentary about Ron Launius is a must. Unfortunately, I’m not sure we will ever get to that point.. It would certainly confirm or debunk a lot of this craziness.

      • criticextraordinaire 12:30 pm on October 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        I probably sound like a broken record here, but I see the possibility of an epic flick based on Ronnie’s life. Kinda like the arc of the movie about Jimmy Hoffa.

        Story would start with his humble beginnings, to his service in ‘Nam, to his career in the drug trade. Like “Hoffa” it ends due to unwisely pissing off the wrong organized crime figures.

        I also think a proper biopic about John Holmes would pack the movie houses. Wonderland was good, but it only focused on a narrow point in time.

        • localarts 4:31 pm on October 17, 2019 Permalink

          Could there ever be a supporting cast worthy enough to be mentioned in the same breath as Ron Launius? Who would play the members of the outlaw motorcycle gang? Susan Launius, Sheriff Bedder Clifton, The two bank tellers and armored car employees ( according to Roger Jacobs Launius made it back across the border and robbed two banks and a armored car to procure the ransom for Susan’s release. Thats just the tip of the iceberg. You still have the 27 murder victims, Ronnies immediate family, etc. Kim Kardashian as Susan Launius.. maybe?

        • criticextraordinaire 9:37 pm on October 17, 2019 Permalink

          Well Mark Paul Gossalaar as Ronnie. Sophia Bush as Susan. Brian Dennehey as Bill Amerson. How are those for starters.

    • localarts 2:20 pm on October 19, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I like it. Not sure about Gossalaar as Ronnie though. I though Josh Lucas did a fine job in Wonderland. Sam Elliot as sheriff Bedder Clifton. Christopher Daniel Barnes ( Brady Bunch movie) as Holmes.

      • Kdimmick 7:00 pm on October 19, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Yes Critic,I really do miss the old days at the IMDB board.
        Glad to see that 4 on the floor finally made it to print. Found out about it here actually. Bought it. The part in the book I liked the best was the part where immediately after the robbery Greg Diles went next door told the kid there about the robbery and then asked to use their phone…Lol

      • criticextraordinaire 6:15 pm on October 20, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        If he were not in jail for the next 24 years, Suge Knight would make a great Gregory Diles.

        • Kdimmick 8:10 pm on October 20, 2019 Permalink

          Yes he would!

    • localarts 10:44 am on October 26, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Kdimmick, if you’re not aware of the Wonderland Podcast by Hollywood & Crime it’s worth listening to. If you enjoyed Four on the Floor, you’ll love the interview they did with Lange & Souza. It’s outstanding!

      Link: https://wondery.com/shows/wonderland-murders/#

    • criticextraordinaire 1:04 pm on December 8, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      And now for this. Even 31 years after his death, John Holmes is relevant on the international stage. Check out this article covering the whole “Brexit” issue.

      https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/gary-lineker-brexit-remain-rees-mogg-1-6376273

      Quoting from the story, “The engorged penis of Johnny Wadd, the legendary porn star, was not as much of a dick as Nigel Farage. ”

    • Criticextraordinaire 5:32 pm on April 17, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Just saw that Brian Dennehy died. He was my pick to portray Bill Amerson in “Wonderland II’.

      Back to the casting calls…

    • localarts 10:39 am on June 18, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Profiles In Eccentricity has an interesting discussion on Holmes, Nash & The Wonderland Murders. The conversation starts at 26:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5md66du-c&t=4321s

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