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  • John 11:42 am on September 16, 2020 Permalink | Reply  

    Tom Lange Quotes From “Inches” Book 

    These are Tom Lange quotes from Jill’s book research and notes. Jill C. Nelson and Jennifer Sugar’s “Inches” book is Amazing. Amazon has it. It would be a good addition to any true crime bookshelf.

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    John, this is information Tom Lange touched on briefly when we spoke with him. We didn’t use it verbatim in the book because it couldn’t be confirmed. He said he believed they (LAPD) located the car eventually, that had dropped Holmes off at Sharon’s or at Bill Amerson’s since both claimed on the record that John arrived at their homes during the early hours on July 1st. The distance between Glenwood and Sherman Oaks is not exactly a hop, skip, and a jump away — it’s approximately eleven miles — so it’s hard to imagine that Holmes arrived at both doorsteps even if he’d had a lift, unless he cloned himself. We asked Lange about the car when it was found, did it have blood in the interior. Lange couldn’t recall or wasn’t certain. He couldn’t commit either way.

    The following are direct quotes from Tom Lange extracted from our September 2007 interview in which he references Dottie Glickman, Scott Thorson, Holmes and Nash. Some of it might be recycled information for readers, some of it not.

    Tom Lange: “We had other witnesses too. We had Hal Glickman’s wife, who is also deceased, who is the one that supposedly drove the killers to the house. She was in hiding, you know, and there was a big rigamarole over that. She was in hiding and she died, too. Dottie Glickman was her name. We looked for the car and we spent hundreds and hundreds of man hours over the years on this thing. We found phony leads. She never really gave us specifics.”

    Tom Lange: “We had Thorson’s car up at Nash’s house right after the murders. He said he overheard Diles beat up John. There’s always a little bit of truth to what someone says. When they’re impeached how much of what they say is true? How much do they embellish their statement for this reason or that reason? Books are written on that subject.”

    Tom Lange: “The pressure was on John. We would have rather not filed a murder charge against John. We wanted him as a witness, but he would have to have been completely forthcoming. Say ‘Yes, I opened the door, I knew what they were going to do.’ And if you were in fear of your life, which he probably was, then that’s what you say. ‘I saw them go to the victims and I saw them beat the victims and they made me take some whacks, I had blood on me. I went to Sharon’s house and I went to Amerson’s house,’ wherever he went. ‘This is what I did and this is what I did with the clothing.’ He needed to make a bold confession, not little admissions where he ended up playing a game. If he did that, then he would have been a witness and given immunity. But instead he played the game. Therefore, we had to put this so-called domino theory into effect to pressure him.”

    Tom Lange: “Nash was a suspect and certainly the motive was very strong and we’d done a background on all these people. We were finding out that Nash had been very insulated in the city for all these years, like the Teflon Don thing. Nobody could ever nail him. And there was a reason for that. You had political corruption, and you had police corruption, and he was a very insulated individual. This was rampant. That’s why he walked for so many years, and basically, he got away with anything he wanted. So, he was a hard nut to crack.

    Of course, then we found out that the feds were investigating him and there were dirty feds involved. Corrupt feds. They had come to our department behind our back and said that we were dirty and we were in bed with Ed Nash — forcing our department to investigate us when they were the ones that were involved — thereby derailing the investigation for a number of years. Which is exactly what they wanted to do.

     
  • John 11:12 am on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Scott Thorson's House In Vegas 

    In the late 70s, Thorson purchased this home with some of his money as an investment, because Lee (Liberace) wanted Scott to have a nest egg of his own. Lee kept him on salary, like his other employees, minstrels and relatives. All of his expenses were paid for, so he had put the money away in the bank. And the movie had it right: It was hard to get cash outright from the entertainer, but Liberace thought nothing of giving someone a $10,000 piece of jewelry as a gift. By this time, the “tract house”, as Scott refers to it in his book, was already over fifteen years old (built in 1963). He doesn’t say how much he paid, but the price today looks quite unreasonable as one could have a custom home built someplace back east for this six-figure amount. BTW, Gladys Luckie was Liberace’s longtime and beloved housekeeper. After Thorson signed away everything for $75,000, Liberace got ownership of the house.

    Here is the home’s partial ownership history, from Clark County, NV records. These days, it’s a rental house:

    Previous Sales

    Date Owner
    12/26/2007 LUCKIE GLADYS
    05/22/2006 CHRISTMAS CHRISTOPHER & SHAWISHI
    05/22/2006 CHRISTMAS SHAWISHI LUCKIE
    04/14/2003 LUCKIE LINDA JOYCE TRUST
    07/11/2002 LUCKIE LINDA J
    05/23/2002 LUCKIE LINDA JOYCE
    02/27/1998 LUCKIE GLADYS TRUST ETAL
    08/21/1992 LUCKIE GLADYS & LINDA JOYCE
    05/18/1992 LUCKIE LINDA JOYCE ETAL
    06/08/1987 LUCKIE GLADYS
    02/18/1987 LIBERACE REVOCABLE TRUST
    05/05/1982 LIBERACE
    12/28/1978 THORSON SCOTT A

    Same Vegas address as given in the book, Behind The Candelabra (1988) – on Laramore Drive:

     

     
    • jimmy chicago 1:04 pm on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thats how the liberals get around living next door to the people they want everyone else too.The shit they dont want in their neighborhood goes to yours. The prices and rules to live in these excluive areas are obscene.When they tore down Cabrini Green in Chicago and put up a few ‘afforadable” places or units mixed in they also held the people who needed the aid to a higher standard then the people who could afford to live there such as {drug testing] Like nun of the rich yuppies do drugs ,well they do but wont be tested like their misfortunate neighbors also they wernt allowed to have visitors like the others who could afford it.

      • criticextraordinaire 5:57 pm on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Cabrini Green was not all that bad. Me and some buddies used to party over there in the early 1990’s. As to the drug testing… hey, if people want to live in housing subsidized by taxpayers, they damn well better not be spending their money on dope. If they got money for dope, then they don’t need my help paying the rent.

  • John 11:22 am on January 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply  

    Cashing In – It Still Occurs 

    These days, real life cops become storytellers by writing books and making TV appearances. In the old days, one had to appear in a Vaudeville show to either tell the story or act out what happened when they made a collar and busted some criminals. This stage work was quicker to organize than writing a book and also more entertaining than reading a book. The windfalls were and are often incredible, but nowadays the fortunate few sometimes get book deals or have to find an agent. Robert Blake contends that is why he was arrested for murder with little or no physical evidence (i.e., the cops and prosecutors wanted to make a name for themselves and get rich – as in the OJ case). Blake’s memoir is one of the best bios I have ever read. I always liked Blake when I was growing up, so the OJ factor is in play here — sort of like the people who admired him or thought he was innocent. Speaking of windfalls, Scott Thorson burned through his Candelabra book money in the late 80s in a few months. Over twenty years later, the six-figures he received for the movie was blown in roughly the same amount of time. Rumor has it that Scott is working on a new book in prison.

    Cashing In… from the book Psycho USA by Harold Schecter:

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    • jimmy chicago 1:11 pm on January 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      John in your research of wonderland did you ever feel you were getting your leg pulled by any of the people who were in the “know” about wonderland . I mean like cops or investigators just trying to keep their names relevant because they were involved some how maybe taking liberties with stories or characters cashing in that way. I think one of the best things on this blog was when you interviewed Billy’s son and he did not make Ronnie sound like a super bad ass just a little trouble maker that billy could crush.I think he was really credible, are or have you interviewed Susan or Ronnie’s brothers.

      • John 1:28 pm on January 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        No, I have not encountered anyone either trying to seem more relevant than they were, or cash in, besides Scott Thorson. I believe Scott wanted a check for being interviewed by Rodger Jacobs once, not sure if he paid him. I’ll have to dig up those notes. Ron’s childhood friend wasn’t super eager to speak to me, then later he said he would but not to use his real name so I didn’t. Holmes attorney is going to write a book, and he was brief in our interview but once I got him talking, he opened up more and we talked longer than I expected. I have not interviewed Susan or Ron’s brothers yet, but they are the last few. I may have better luck with Ron’s youngest brother. What should I do there, contact them myself or have an intermediary do it? I need advice. I scared a few of the gang’s kids off by contacting them myself. Actually, the truth is… they were the estranged kids of Dave and Tracy, who were deserted as kids so they didn’t want to talk about their dads at all, of course. Besides, they said they didn’t know much and one didn’t even know what her dad looked like (Lind).

      • John 1:40 pm on January 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        More luck and second chances have landed in Scott’s lap than anybody else, and he pissed it all away. He even left or lost his meal ticket in Maine (the religious woman during the 90s who took care of him when he was born again or whatever after he was shot three times by that crackhead in the early 90s). It was mostly platonic, but she did say that the only time they had sex “it was horrible”. LOL So he couldn’t even do that good.

  • John 10:44 am on December 5, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Liberace Lost His Virginity To A Green Bay Packer 

    From Scott Thorson and Alex Thorleifson’s 1988 book “Behind The Candelabra”. I believe this was also mentioned in the movie. I hope the cheeseheads don’t come outta the woodwork – don’t shoot the messenger!

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    • jimmy chicago 11:41 am on December 5, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      As a BEAR fan I would not doubt that many men have lost their virginity to a green bay packer. They dont call um packers for nothing

  • John 4:19 pm on August 11, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    True Lies: John Holmes and Scott Thorson 

    Addiction is a medical problem; a brain disease and is lifelong. So says the famous celebrity addiction counselor, Dr. Drew Pinsky. He goes further: “Once the switch to addiction is thrown, then it is a chronic, lifelong condition … addicts tell me that while they are sober, their addiction is doing push-ups, waiting to re-emerge and take over … it’s a brain disorder and it’s waiting and lurking in them.” Dr. Drew also says that when an addict begins to offer you a promise or an explanation, then you should cover your ears because you are about to receive a big load of bullshit.

    John Holmes and Scott Thorson

    So then – what can we say about these two men? Apparently, there is quite a bit because they really had a lot in common.

    Both men were originally from very humble beginnings in the Midwest – John from Ohio and Scott by way of Wisconsin and Minnesota. The pair each lived and worked on the edge of true celebrity and on the fringes of the entertainment world; enough celebrity fire to at least capture the friendship of Eddie Nash. Yet both became immersed in the hardcore world of drugs. Both men shared a love lust for the same drug – freebase rock cocaine – Crack!

    These two men have both had movies made about them, and both have become, by their own actions and mistakes – legendary figures. Both have ghost-written books, with Scott’s coming out the same year John died. Almost star-crossed, they have so much in common that it is almost like they were separated at birth, moved away and then as adults, veered towards the same destiny. The most common trait between these two men however, were the lies. It was that you could not believe a thing that came out of their mouths. They have also lied to themselves, and betrayed their own emotions.

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    I should be delivering furniture in Ohio

    Everybody lies to get something they want on occasion, but according to the annals of psychiatry, “a pathological liar may be aware they are lying, or may believe they are telling the truth, being unaware that they are relating fantasies”. One origin of this behavior begins with a chaotic home life and generally starts to grow during a person’s teenage years. At this stage, due to insecurities, they begin to lie to cast themselves in a favorable light, as to “decorate their own person”. That says it all right there. Furthermore, the liar does not really believe the lies, and knows which are true if pressed for the truth, but, in cases of rather extreme traumatic events and to save conscience, the liar can easily “lie it away” quite quickly, in other words even lie to themselves to get it off their mental table or conscience – and bury it away as truth.

    The morning of the murders, when John was asked by his estranged wife, Sharon, how he could have been involved in something like that since the victims were his friends, he simply replied “they were dirt.”

    Decorate Their Own Person

    Like any book, writing your autobiography can be quite a difficult task. It is even harder to pen your life story though when you cannot keep your lies straight within the book itself and most damaging, keep the lies straight with things that you say on record that are to the contrary, before and after the book has been published.

    In the Wonderland realm, there have been three key figures who have accomplished this amazing feat: John Holmes, Scott Thorson and Dawn Schiller. Leaving Dawn out of this (for now), Holmes and Thorson could not even keep their lies straight even when it came time to capture, for the entire world to see, their own life story. They had already told different stories before the books were printed, and most damaging, Scott did it afterward as well.

    A person’s autobiography is the holiest of holies when it comes to your legacy, even if you do not have an exciting story to tell. These men did have great stories to tell, but they could not keep the lies from changing long enough to even let themselves die first. When you scan the online reader reviews for these books, even the average person has noticed it, and almost all of them mention it.

    Old things, dead and buried, often get new life breathed into them. Books are no different and due to the success of the 2013 film based on the 1988 book of the same name, Behind the Candelabra has gained some brief popularity and was re-released in electronic form with a few minor additions.

    Thus, I found Scott’s new Afterword. Yes, Scott (aka Jess Marlow) had an opportunity to add an Afterword section to the end of his famous book and he tells us what he has been doing lately. But what does he do with this opportunity? He lies. Scott stretches this short couple of paragraphs so that he can squeeze a lie in there. And here it is (paraphrased): As a person in witness protection because he was a witness against feared L.A. nightclub owner Eddie Nash, an attempt was made on his life by associates of Eddie Nash about a year after the trial. The only problem was, Nash’s first trial was a hung jury, and the second trial ended in acquittal. Nash was acquitted due to Scott’s flimsy testimony, not convicted. It would make no sense to kill him, at all. Unbelievable, yet sadly rather believable if you know Scott’s history of lying. By the way, Scott is trying to put together another book or movie about himself and is looking for investors with this project.

    Indeed, an attempt was made on Jess Marlow’s life, sure. It was at a cheap motel in Jacksonville in November, 1991. That did happen. However, the would-be assassin at the room that night was no pro, but simply a longtime petty thief and crack-head, a twenty-five year old man named Melvin Jerome Owen. He was arrested shortly after the shooting.

    According to police, they may have been smoking crack together in the room before the shooting, due to all of the paraphernalia lying about. The one good thing to come from the shooting though for Scott was that his own body and heart did not betray him. Although shot 3 times in the chest and after spending many weeks on the critical list, the authorities would later say “..it was very serious, nobody thought he would make it. But he just kept living and living and he finally recovered”. In his Afterword, Scott even raises the number of bullets that were pumped into his body by the assassin from three… to five. He lied again, yet he cheated death. After this, he moved in with a nice lady in Maine for about ten years. He lived clean, but later said that that felt like he was living a lie, so he went back to being a shit head.

    In his own book, Porn King, John Holmes tells a great story. But that is just it, a story. It was public knowledge via court testimony and news articles that John’s whereabouts on the night of the Wonderland murders was inside the house, with the killers. He was made to watch what they did to his friends. His attorneys admitted this much in court. Holmes admitted this to cops as well, albeit “off the record”. But when his long awaited book was published posthumously, the story had changed again. This time, he was not at the house, but kept at gunpoint at another house while his friends were brutally killed. He states that when they released him, he did go back to the Wonderland house, acting bravely, to check on them – only to discover the carnage that awaited him – “Their heads had been pulverized” and other such nonsense. Sharon Holmes statements about certain events even show that he couldn’t even keep his employment history straight – not remembering that his term as ambulance driver was “while” they were married, and not before they hooked up.

    John feared for the members of his family. All of this had been his fault and he knew it. This lie – even though it subverted justice and harmed many other people, does have a hint of real purpose behind it. In his eyes, it saved the lives of his family from the revenge of Eddie Nash. He could have come clean in his posthumous book, but there we are again, with his family exposed to danger. Even a liar loves his mother.

    For love or lust, there is nothing wrong with being emotionally or physically involved in a homosexual relationship. Next to Adam and Eve, it may even be the oldest hook-up known to mankind. Gay sex. The ancients were famous for it. But if you do it merely and solely for financial gain, then like any hetero tryst for hire, society has a word for that:  whore. Whether gay or bisexual or not at all, both John and Scott explored homosexuality in a grand public fashion, yet in a false way; because it was for their own individual financial gain. John did it in a video. Scott did it as Liberace’s always present boy-toy. And Scott told Larry King he was not gay.

    Neither man was gay or bisexual. John hinted at it, but only did one film and maybe a few old loops. Scott says he was solely with Liberace. But both men compromised their sexuality and emotions just for money and drugs. Scott did it on the long term, while John on the short, and both of their little escapades would end up in death and disaster, physically and legally.

    After John Holmes’ murder trial in 1982 and not too long after he had just been freed from jail, a morally and financially bankrupt Holmes starred in one gay porn film (The Private Pleasures of John C. Holmes) and in it, he had unprotected sex with a man named Joey Yale. Joey died of AIDS a few years later. AIDS was pretty much an unknown then, besides this was just for some quick cash.

    When Scott lied to Tom Lange and authorities about being at Nash’s house the night Holmes was brought in by the collar, it was to save his ass from going to jail for up to ten years from an aggravated assault and burglary during a home invasion. That’s three home invasions in this story so far, four if you count the robbery of the man in the Valley by Lind, Billy and Ronnie pre-Nash. That’s the one where Ronnie wanted to kill the maid, but Dave and Billy would not allow it.

    Alright, I’ll get off my soapbox.

     
    • localarts 9:28 am on August 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      When you are so full of shit that you don’t even know who you are and you’re life is built on a pack of lies, the result is an endless stream of contradictions. That would be the case with Holmes. Many of his fans blame his behavior and shortcomings on drug addiction and to a degree, that’s true. What defined John Holmes as a man is the same thing that defines all of us… that is our character. And in that department he was sorley lacking. Big time!

    • Jill Nelson 8:32 am on August 16, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Great read, John. I can’t disagree with anything you’ve put forth except to concur that memoirs (and particularly memoirs penned or ghost-penned by the famous and infamous) are easy to pick apart for holes if you have familiarity to, or even an inkling of the (real) story. Mostly, I agree with your comments as well, localarts. The only thing I would like to add is my belief that despite genetics playing a major role in forming our characters, our characters are also largely subject to and shaped by our home environments. And yes, our characters are definitely what defines us. From the get go, Holmes, and most likely Thorson as well, was groomed to survive at all costs. This is evident throughout John’s life beginning when he was a child, and in that regard, only the surface has been scratched.
      As I’ve maintained for many years, excuse making and comprehension are perhaps different sides of the same coin. Lies, deception and hustle are necessary tools to perpetuate the con game to the point where truth becomes fiction. Self-loathing factors in big time.
      Thanks. I enjoy popping in whenever I get a chance. 🙂

    • criticextraordinaire 6:22 pm on August 17, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      John C. Holmes was not on the edge of celebrity. He was a huge celebrity in the 1970’s. I remember the local newspaper running full page ads, pitching the latest Johnny Wadd film. “Come see the Johnny Wadd Film Festival… free coffee and donuts at dawn!” ran one ad.

      Can you imagine any porn star today getting that sort of coverage? Bob Vosse was right… Johnny Wadd was the Elvis Presley of his day.

      As for John’s performance in “Private Pleasures” it was certainly a mercenary act. Anything for a buck and Johnny “Cash” Holmes was up for working that equation. Well, not really “up” for that until they brought in Sharon Kane as a stunt butt. You could clearly see that John’s mind was not into the performance, he was probably thinking about how he was going to rotate the tires on Amerson’s car while he was doing the action scenes for this flick.

      I don’t see John as having “exploited homosexuality” as much as I see him simply doing a film with a simulated homosexual act (albeit with Ms. Kane) for a buck. Heck he would have corn holed a rhesus monkey if they had paid him; to him it was simply getting a paycheck by impaling anything that was even remotely available. Thorson, on the other hand, seems to link every thing that happens to him as somehow related to his gayness.

    • bobabooie 12:22 pm on June 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Victims Miller, Launius et al, were “dirt”? Well at least THAT was no lie. At least “Johnny Wadd” wasn’t delusional.

  • John 12:02 pm on October 10, 2015 Permalink | Reply
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    Taxi Driver’s “Easy Andy” At Wonderland? 

    This was originally shared via the FB page. The FB page is back up by the way. I had intended to go out west earlier this year to meet some folks and that did not happen. This January/Feb the trip will finally be possible. In the past year, I have undergone my own discovery of faith, love, addiction and redemption. There is so much I want to share with you, and I have been writing and researching like crazy. It will be in the book. Thanks all.

    In a strangely relaxing scene from the chaotic film, Taxi Driver, Steven Prince was great as Easy Andy the gun and drug dealer. At the 41:00 minute mark of the following video “American Prince”, Steven talks of Wonderland. Thanks to Bobby for the link. Also, I am told Scott Thorson is seeking to do a new book or movie and wants investors, if you have the ca$h. That’s funny…and yeah, there’s a chapter on him too. I would take a trip up to that Nevada prison he’s in, but he will just muddy the waters with more BS. I don’t need that revisionist history. Truth clarifies!! As MLK once said “the universe bends towards justice”.

     
    • swrworkingman 6:15 pm on October 11, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Good to see you back John

    • Ken 2:33 am on October 12, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Talk with Rodger Jacobs if you want to know all about this nutcase woman…..

    • Jill C. Nelson 1:54 pm on October 14, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      “In the past year, I have undergone my own discovery of faith, love, addiction and redemption.” Whether related or not, there is something about this story that brings about all of the above. Glad to read that you are well and working hard, John.

      • John 8:30 am on October 15, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Jill. Glad you are still here.

    • Bobby 8:02 am on October 21, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Really great to hear you’re well John and that your pop is doing a lot better!

  • John 7:09 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Interview With Kevin Deverell & Photo Of Paul Kelly 

    Kevin Deverell and I spoke yesterday for 45 minutes. Kevin was serving in the US Navy aboard the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal when his father died.

    This is a true crime discussion forum. The whole point is to discuss details and find out the truth. The real story and the back-story so to speak. The visitors and posters at this blog feel compassion for the departed, because we have all had someone close to us lost to drugs, crime, or loved ones who got mixed up with the wrong crowd. In Wonderland, the truth about those involved was elusive in this case from the very beginning. It is nice to finally begin to find out the truth. In the decades since the 80s, some of the key figures (Thorson, Schiller) have even changed their stories somewhat. Erroneous details, exaggerations and accusations have consistently been thrown around by the media, sensationalized TV shows and so on. Thus, it is nice to start finding out the truth and setting the record straight. Thanks to Nils and Kevin, Jill Nelson and blog contributors for helping me out in this arena. The goal of this blog from the beginning was to gain exposure, through genuine discussion with key people, and possibly do a book or “real” documentary. If you’re new here, use the Search button because some of the highlights include contributions from Holmes author, Jill C. Nelson, Nils Grevillius, Julia Negron (ex-wife of Three Dog Night singer, Chuck), Lee who worked at the Starwood and knew Eddie Nash. There is also the close family friend of Tracy McCourt, the widow of Ron Launius’ friend, Carroll Evan Sherrill, among others. Go to Podcasts in the drop down menu if you want to listen to my interview from last year with Wonderland investigator and private eye, Nils Grevillius. Thanks for stopping by, but please don’t leave comments in anger or use curse words.

    Stream the interview here:

    Play or Download the mp3 audio file here:

    Also included is a photo of Billy Deverell and Paul Kelly, circa 1960s. Billy was 27 years old in this photo. Thanks again, Kevin!

    Billy Deverell and Paul Kelly

    Billy Deverell and Paul Kelly

     
    • criticextraordinaire 9:10 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      re: Billy’s 13 arrests. Would that not be public record? I’m pretty sure that info would be available to prove or disprove, at least the arrests and any possible convictions.

      • John 8:27 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        While this is possible if you know someone, it’s pretty impossible to walk in or phone a police station or Sheriff’s office and say you want someone’s criminal records. Even if they are deceased. Even if you are family. Basically in this case, I guarantee that one cop told a reporter this number, and it was said once, and then got reprinted over and over again by the newspapers.

        The Freedom of Information Act is a joke. Especially if the clerk is too lazy to even fulfill your request. I have numerous requests over a year old with the prison systems, military records people, a Sheriff’s dept, state police, etc. Civil service has gone downhill, worse than it ever was before. Even if you pay them their fee. Good luck.

        • Bonnie Brae 10:46 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink

          Hey Jenn – Friend me on Facebook – ask John how to find me.

        • Bonnie Brae 10:53 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink

          John – you make some damn good points.

        • dreamweaverjenn 5:47 pm on March 10, 2014 Permalink

          Oh no doubt…..I have personal experience with media taking one thing, blowing it waaaaaay out of proportion and spreading it everywhere…..

        • localarts 4:24 pm on March 12, 2014 Permalink

          Chris Cox statement somewhat dubunks Thorsons allegations about what happened to Holmes after Nash found out it was him who set up the robbery. I think Chris Cox said he heard that Nash had been robbed, and went up to Dona Lola to see Eddie. He said when he walked in the front door he saw John Holmes stand by the bar.

          That’s a big contrast from Thorson’s account. “Diles burst thru the front door with Holmes by the back of the neck and marched him straight to the bedroom. Thorson said they beat the hell out of Holmes and walked out of the bedroom an hour later with Holmes by the back of the neck with one hand and a pipe in the other.

          It’s like you were saying John, Thorson may have been just as big a liar as Holmes

        • John 5:54 pm on March 12, 2014 Permalink

          So according to Kevin and Nils, back in 2001 a 71 yr old Eddie Nash had a rough time at Terminal Island prison.

    • Bonnie Brae 9:50 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Nils is the Man.

    • criticextraordinaire 9:53 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Is Paul the guy who took a dump on Joy’s coffee table or something like that?

      • John 7:59 am on March 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I think that is what Kevin told me before, but it was a b-day cake. Paul must have been the life of the party.

    • Bonnie Brae 9:59 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Someone left a comment a while ago that we need to get a life. Could not agree more. At the same time it’s such a fascinating story.

      • dreamweaverjenn 11:21 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Ah, screw ’em! It is a fascinating story! There is so much more to these people then “they did drugs, they were bad criminals, they were murdered” the end. So, if we need to get a life, what were they doing on here as well??

      • Eric B 1:33 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Funny! 🙂 I was just checking this story on Facebook and my girlfriend peers over my shoulder and says, “GOOD GOD ARE YOU STILL READING THAT STUFF!??! THEY’RE ALL DEAD…” haha

    • Bonnie Brae 10:05 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I love the story about the Hawk. So sweet.

    • Bonnie Brae 10:15 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Cool interview. Thanks John. – I love when he asked why you were so interested in the story.

    • dreamweaverjenn 11:22 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Awesome! Love this interview! Thanks John!

    • Bonnie Brae 11:43 am on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Final comment. I agree with Dream. We have heard all the speculation. The newspapers made sure we knew about all the dirt that sensationalized the story. Thank you Kevin for showing us the other side of your dad and letting us see the human guy that some people are unable to grasp. Why the fascination? hmmm good question. Why are people so fascinated with Jack the Ripper, or Dahlia?

      • swrworkingman 9:32 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        For me, the fascination has got to do with the lead pipes. Of course John’s double role and all, but the led pipes nails Nash as the stereotype godfather that he was, not only did he show no mercy, he wanted to send a message in the underworld of LA. Tom Lange points it out in the British documentary.

        • John 10:00 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink

          As bouncer at some of Nash’s clubs, Diles was known to wield a pipe fitted with a rubber bicycle handlebar grip to threaten unruly customers. He also chased a man from one of the clubs one time, emptying his gun at the man across 6 lanes of traffic at 2 in the afternoon. His brother, Sammy once pistol whipped the brother of a city councilman at the Kit Kat Club, for which he served 2 year I believe for assault.

        • dreamweaverjenn 9:14 am on March 13, 2014 Permalink

          Wow, these people were hard core. I can see Diles emptying his gun in broad daylight too and not EVEN worrying about it. Dang…..

        • localarts 10:16 am on March 13, 2014 Permalink

          I think Eddie Nash was the most dangerous person of all the people that been profiled on this blog. Eddie had a vast amount of resources available at his disposable. If I were to rank me:
          1) Eddie Nash
          2) Horace “Big Mac” McKenna
          3) Ron Launius
          4) John Curtis Holmes

      • localarts 9:27 pm on March 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        John Holmes did far worse than Billy ever did.

    • Nils Grevillius 12:21 pm on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Kevin is a good man and has my respect. I am glad the back story is included here, of real lives of real people. Good work, Weghorst.

    • localarts 3:11 pm on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Fantastic as always! Without John’s dedication and drive, some of the mysteries surrounding the people and events that led up to the murders would still be unknowns. It sounds like Billy was just a regular guy.
      Went to work, paid his bills, and raised a family then fell into drugs, unfortunately. The same thing can probably be said about Joy.

      Without going into alot of detail, if you remove John Curtis Homes from the equation, it changes the course of everyone’s life forever. Including, Eddie Nash. And that’s a fact.

      • dreamweaverjenn 4:21 pm on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I agree!

      • dreamweaverjenn 4:53 pm on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Some asshole started shit with me on Facebook because I didn’t like his comments and the fact that he referred to himself as John Holmes. I asked if was also a sorry piece of shit and then it was on, lol. Sometimes I can’t keep my comments to myself and it gets me in trouble……Most of the time I try to be a very nice lady (My daughter’s saying “yeah, right, Mom.”

    • Darlene 6:49 pm on March 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      It was close to end of May I seen Billy a week before this all happened , Joy was the worse thing that ever happened to him

    • Darla 9:27 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      If Billy was under survallience , Why was that not a factor in catching his murderers?

      • John 9:33 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Darla. I think the police were aware of things at the house but it was not being watched 100% of the time.

        • Darla 9:47 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink

          I knew him all my life the Good,the Bad and the Ugly, Growing up he wasn’t like what ppl are saying and honestly, the Movie I call ” Bullshit”

      • localarts 5:47 pm on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I think the house was under surveillance not Billy specifically. The police were keeping tabs on who was coming and going in order to build a case. Joy was potentially looking at doing time already.

        • John 1:09 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink

          Yeah, the fuzz were probably checking out the house once in a while, but I doubt a team of narc’s were on the case full time.

    • localarts 10:32 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I wonder whatever became of those antique Colt dueling pistols? Even back in 81 they would have been worth a fortune.

    • Tori 11:42 am on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Does kevin live in Orange County? Didn’t u say garden grove ?

      • Tori 12:09 pm on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        My pops works for Bragg crane n rigging . They totally test randomly idk about back then. Like kevin said That kind of work there is no way you could be on drugs. Too dangerous.

      • John 12:36 pm on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’m not sure where.

        • Tori 2:08 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink

          John I showed my dad ur blog he loves it. He’s on it as we speak. He’s just as fascinated in wonderland as we are!He loves that song . Who’s song is it?!

        • John 3:31 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink

          Bette Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes. It was the #1 song on the charts in June & July 1981.

    • dreamweaverjenn 5:53 pm on March 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Hey Bonnie, sent him a message ❤

    • swrworkingman 12:55 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I kind of feel sorry for the actor who had the role as Tracy in Wonderland, if it is true they wrote him more or less out of the movie because of the real Tracy being a pain in the ass 😉

      • John 1:01 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        You mean George Leonardopoulos? LOL. Yes, his career also took a nosedive after the movie. He appeared in very little and also suffered a setback LOL

        • swrworkingman 1:05 pm on March 11, 2014 Permalink

          Its all McCourts fault, haha

        • Bobby 4:34 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink

          ..And what a terrible line and delivery too! Doesn’t he say something like “Sure thing boss!” as if he’s in a damn James Cagney gangster flick after one of the gang tells him he’s the wheelman. Makes we cringe whenever I see it. Almost as bad as that extra slapping his thigh to the music when Lind enters the house for the first time during the party scene. When you see how badly that guy is overacting it can never be unseen! LOL!

        • dreamweaverjenn 5:36 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink

          Every time I watch it I notice something like that, the thigh slapping or someone saying something cheesy…..

    • John 4:41 pm on March 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      John Holmes died on this date in 1988. 3-13.

      • localarts 5:25 pm on March 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, and he took alot of secrets with him. Anyone willing to speculate where Holmes is spending his days now?

    • Mike 11:55 pm on March 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Interestingly you can hear a hawk calling loudly on one of the Wonderland walk-through vids on YouTube.

    • kdimmick 12:19 am on March 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Is Paul Kelly still alive?

      • John 5:49 am on March 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Ken, nobody really knows. He’s be about 70+ now if he was alive.

        • Ken D. 3:17 am on March 15, 2014 Permalink

          John,
          Here is a tidbit of information that I do not know if you are aware of if it is true…
          Back when the movie WONDERLAND came out Lions Gate had a discussion board that a lot of people used to post at but it eventually got shut down due to all the crap that went on there. Anyway…..There was a lady from Canada who posted there.She was a painter by the name of Denise LafFrance who was planning to write and illustrate with her portraits of porn people a coffee table type book about the golden age of porn. She went on a trip to L.A. in order to meet a lot of the old time porn performers. She was wired in pretty tight with Cass Paley and he was making introductions to of her to people like Bob Chinn,Bill Margold etc…. After she got back from her trip I asked her how it went and what all she did while she was there and she related an interesting visit that she took with Bill Amerson to Glickman’s bail bond office there in L.A.. Glickman regaled her with old stories about Eddie Nash and also mentioned that an old friend of Ron Launius’s worked there with him but was not in at the time…..that friend of Launius’s was Paul Kelly. She said that her and Bill Amerson waited awhile for Kelly to get back but they had to leave when he hadn’t shown up after awhile so she never did actually meet him.
          Do you by any chance know anything about a Hal Glickman/Paul Kelly connection?

        • John 7:26 am on March 15, 2014 Permalink

          I will ask Nils about Hal Glickman, if he is still around and such. In his investigation he found that Glickman’s wife may have given Holmes a ride home that fateful morning. Thanks for the lead, maybe it will open up some channels!

    • Jill C. Nelson 1:44 pm on March 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “In his investigation he found that Glickman’s wife may have given Holmes a ride home that fateful morning. Thanks for the lead, maybe it will open up some channels!”

      John, this is information Tom Lange touched on briefly when we spoke with him. We didn’t use it verbatim in the book because it couldn’t be confirmed. He said he believed they (LAPD) located the car eventually, that had dropped Holmes off at Sharon’s or at Bill Amerson’s since both claimed on the record that John arrived at their homes during the early hours on July 1st. The distance between Glenwood and Sherman Oaks is not exactly a hop, skip, and a jump away — it’s approximately eleven miles — so it’s hard to imagine that Holmes arrived at both doorsteps even if he’d had a lift, unless he cloned himself. We asked Lange about the car when it was found, did it have blood in the interior. Lange couldn’t recall or wasn’t certain. He couldn’t commit either way.

      The following are direct quotes from Tom Lange extracted from our September 2007 interview in which he references Dottie Glickman, Scott Thorson, Holmes and Nash. Some of it might be recycled information for readers, some of it not.

      Tom Lange: “We had other witnesses too. We had Hal Glickman’s wife, who is also deceased, who is the one that supposedly drove the killers to the house. She was in hiding, you know, and there was a big rigamarole over that. She was in hiding and she died, too. Dottie Glickman was her name. We looked for the car and we spent hundreds and hundreds of man hours over the years on this thing. We found phony leads. She never really gave us specifics.”

      Tom Lange: “We had Thorson’s car up at Nash’s house right after the murders. He said he overheard Diles beat up John. There’s always a little bit of truth to what someone says. When they’re impeached how much of what they say is true? How much do they embellish their statement for this reason or that reason? Books are written on that subject.”

      Tom Lange: “The pressure was on John. We would have rather not filed a murder charge against John. We wanted him as a witness, but he would have to have been completely forthcoming. Say ‘Yes, I opened the door, I knew what they were going to do.’ And if you were in fear of your life, which he probably was, then that’s what you say. ‘I saw them go to the victims and I saw them beat the victims and they made me take some whacks, I had blood on me. I went to Sharon’s house and I went to Amerson’s house,’ wherever he went. ‘This is what I did and this is what I did with the clothing.’ He needed to make a bold confession, not little admissions where he ended up playing a game. If he did that, then he would have been a witness and given immunity. But instead he played the game. Therefore, we had to put this so-called domino theory into effect to pressure him.”

      Tom Lange: “Nash was a suspect and certainly the motive was very strong and we’d done a background on all these people. We were finding out that Nash had been very insulated in the city for all these years, like the Teflon Don thing. Nobody could ever nail him. And there was a reason for that. You had political corruption, and you had police corruption, and he was a very insulated individual. This was rampant. That’s why he walked for so many years, and basically, he got away with anything he wanted. So, he was a hard nut to crack.
      Of course, then we found out that the feds were investigating him and there were dirty feds involved. Corrupt feds. They had come to our department behind our back and said that we were dirty and we were in bed with Ed Nash — forcing our department to investigate us when they were the ones that were involved — thereby derailing the investigation for a number of years. Which is exactly what they wanted to do.”

      • localarts 3:06 pm on March 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Nils Grevillius said Dottie Glickman gave Holmes a ride as well. You know you’re dealing with a very, very big fish (Nash) when everybody either goes into hiding or wants witness protection.

        I remember I once said on this blog, Nash’s power was far reaching and Jill’s quote from Lange would seem to support this plus Nils thought the more fascinating aspect about the whole thing was what appeared to be a cover up, it would sure seem that way.

        It would be interesting to know just how far up the ladder this went?

      • John 3:11 pm on March 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Jill. Amazing. Those tapes belong in the Smithsonian right near the 75 Granada and John & Sharon’s Malibu. This seemingly soft corruption by the cops or powers that be is underrated / understated. I’m sure there was more payola floating around from Ed to some judges or cops. I doubt he was slipping under the radar because he buying drinks and dinner for these people.

    • John 8:51 am on March 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I just finished reading Chuck Negron’s book, 3 Dog Nightmare. Kevin sent me a copy. The Wonderland section is brief, but very telling. What Chuck says about Joy and Billy backs up what Kevin said in a way. Joy was owed by just about everyone, even Chuck and Julia Negron. Thus, Billy was collecting for her, shortly after they began dating. Kevin said to me this past weekend “You did not want to owe Billy Deverell money”. Before Billy was around, one of Joy’s suppliers named Jack had slapped around Joy because of money that Chuck and some others owed.

      Chuck would trade Joy for antique furniture, jewelry, etc. Chuck was also arrested twice while driving away from Joy’s apartment in Brentwood. She must have been watched for some time. One time, Julia picked up Chuck at Joy’s because Chuck was in no condition to drive. Julia fell asleep and they got into a bad car wreck. Chuck also says in the book that Fat Howard shot up his house over an unpaid drug debt. Chuck did a counter-threat to Fat Howard Cook, and I guess it scared him and Cook told Joy to tell Chuck that don’t worry, we’re all square. Although delinquent on debts, Chuck didn’t take any crap, and once burned up a dealer’s garage who had taken his Benz.

      The Wonderland chapter is very brief but awesome. The only mistake was saying Billy was an ex-con, which he was not. Chuck called Holmes a “worn out loser” or something like that and said he was friends with all 4 people who died that night. He would have been there but was sleeping off a dopesick day. The guys at the house must have thought he would stop by, thus the Three Dog Night album “Harmony” was out, and on the turntable, according to the crime scene.

      I was hoping Chuck would mention Bill “Ricco” Vlick but he never did.

      • localarts 10:42 am on March 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Great stuff. I wonder if Joy kept a ledger for accounts receivable & accounts payable? I’m only half kidding but you would think Joy or Billy would have kept some kind of record of who owed what. Even though what they were doing was illegal, it was in essence a business.

      • Kevin 5:42 pm on March 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Wow John well I guess I could’ve got my question answered by coming to this blog site I didn’t realize this is going to take me days to go through I bet I could answer a lot of questions and get a lot of questions answered also good job

        • Kevin 5:47 pm on March 19, 2014 Permalink

          I didn’t know the Wonderland crew had such a following I guess my dad’s a little mini celebrity too bad he had to die to acquire it

      • Bobby 2:14 am on March 24, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Would LOVE to read that Wonderland chapter! Any chance you could put a scan of it up on this here blog?.. or perhaps some of the highlights?… We love you long time..;)

    • mark c 6:24 pm on April 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Kevin Deverell sound’s like a very nice person.
      Been a pleasure just listen to him.

    • @oglepke via Twitter.com 8:46 am on July 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I too grew up around this time, did odd jobs around Starwood lived 1321 n. LAUREL ave. and all through Hollywood it’was a different time, black and white no in between if you weren’t an erner you weren’t part of any scene the drugs were different back then and so was the outcome when you go up agenist anyone with influence or power, like a drug power will get you took out the game as it did for ANYONE who went to Nash’s spot expecting a different out come, my best friend ended up in pieces, i kept myself Respectful and humble and maybe that’s why I’m still living I learned you never F^%#K with a mans #1 Money, #2 drugs, #3 pussy, and #4 manhood, period as in the case of the WONDERLAND gang that wasn’t the case and like any addict 1 is too many and a 1,000 just a tease, my heart goes out to the families who suffered for we as parents never want to see our beloved children stuck in a WONDERLAND TRAP HOUSE. Been there done that!!! Trust me. I’m also a writer and write on living within the streets of LOS ANGELES HOLLYWOOD addicted not only to the drugs, but to the whole lifestyles. The thing that pulls me in a different direction is I know if I was to hit someone as big as Nash, not even a thought would occur in my twisted thinking!! I would of made sure I burryed myself away where I would of panicked myself to the surface as any drug use plays a roll to where that much stash would have ANYONE not making good choices, I too like most am intreged by LAUREL CYN KIRKWOOD. LOOKOUT MTN. Area,” I was hiking when I was young and came accross a decomposed body up off of Kirkwood before you hit the CYN store me and another kid we were dirt bike riding bikes, the police said the person was shooting dope and ODed on the spot, such a horrible smell. I think it was early 70s way before anything up the way. It left me with a feeling that life isn’t taken seriously in those hills I grew up in partied in it always left me with a feeling I still hold on to today a fear that if I’m not on my pees and Q’s life can be snatched away eaither by my own hands or by another’s. Good piece john keep us posted I would diffitnitly like to read more.., I’m also on twitter @oglepke an original HOLLYWOOD REBEL. 1963 2014

  • John 7:23 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Thorson’s “Afterword” In New Candelabra Edition Full Of Crap 

    So much revisionist history that it will make your head spin. Typical Thorson.

    I guess that with the success of the film, Behind The Candelabra, the book by Scott has been given a new printing. Thus, we have an Afterword added by Scott Thorson. It is no surprise to you, but he is so full of it.

    First of all, he observes all of the same old tired yet crooked “facts” about Wonderland and Nash. Scott also claims that the crackhead who shot him at the motel in Jacksonville was a hitman sent by Nash. Here is a link to an article regarding that incident. Melvin Jerome Owen was a career petty criminal and crackhead. He was just an addict who had been either partying with Thorson or knew he had drugs and attempted to rob him. Thorson may have been more slippery and teflon than Nash or Holmes in the past, but not anymore — since Scott is headed to prison.

    Nash was acquitted, not convicted due to Scott’s testimony. Ridiculous!

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    • Mark C 8:43 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t know if it just me or I think Scott or Jess what ever he going by now. I think he wants us to rate him on the John Holmes stretch the truth meter. Well that don’t sound too good but I think you know what I mean. I try put this nice as I can. Trouble with John Holmes name there a lot of jokes still out about him. Even in these days & times Holmes still pretty famous.

      • John 9:44 am on February 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, the surname Holmes is legendary now days. Before JH, did people go around saying “Hey, what’s up Holmes!” and stuff like that. He really did cement that name in history. One cannot see a person with that last name and not think of the guy. It’s pretty bizarre.

        • criticextraordinaire 8:44 pm on February 20, 2014 Permalink

          Well it’s good to see Johnny get his due. It’s shame that he got involved with drugs though. If he had dodged that bullet he’d still be at the top of the adult film world and would be worth a bloody fortune, distributing product from his own website, johnnywadd.com , as well as streaming video, merchandising, and the occasional *ahem” personal services. Not to mention the income stream provided by the information in that gold-encrusted foot locker.

    • Mike 9:00 pm on February 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “What’s up Holmes” in that context is short for “homeboy”. I guess in theory it should be “homes”.

    • Mark C 2:51 pm on February 21, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Appears Holmes wish has can true, Not part of him after his death ended up in a Pickle Jar somewhere on the wall of a Bar or Nightclub. Or its sure not shown up anywhere yet I know of.

  • John 7:22 am on January 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Scott Thorson Is Headed To The Pokey 

    As OJ Simpson found out, you don’t go to Vega$ and screw around with crime. That city has a zero tolerance policy, and where you may get a paltry sentence for what OJ and Scott Thorson did in another state, Nevada will kick your ass instead. That place has enough assholes running around pulling scams and committing crimes. Scott initially received probation but now he’s looking at his original sentence of 8 to 20 years …. well, read more below from USA Today. He failed his drug test (again).

    RENO, Nev. (AP) — A former lover of Liberace who was the subject of an HBO film on the pianist’s life has been sentenced to eight to 20 years in a Nevada prison for failing another court-ordered drug test while on probation for burglary and identity theft convictions.

    Washoe District Judge Patrick Flanagan sentenced Scott Thorson on Wednesday after a string of bad drug tests capped by his failure to show up at a court-ordered treatment facility.

    Flanagan originally suspended the prison sentence in July and gave Thorson a second chance in September after testing positive for methamphetamine, but he failed tests twice in October and again on Nov. 1. He was arrested Nov. 19 after violating an order to enter an inpatient treatment facility in Reno two weeks earlier, court records show.

    Thorson, 54, whose real name is Jess Marlow, had admitted he was an addict but insisted he was determined to get sober when he tearfully appealed to the judge in September to spare him from prison.

    “I’m just asking for another chance,” Thorson said, explaining he was dealing with his newfound celebrity stature.”

    “I can’t help who I am,” he told the judge at the time. “I’m in show business. I attract these cameras.”

    Flanagan said it would be his “last chance.”

    “I’m not impressed — I don’t think anybody is — with this so-called celebrity status,” he said. “You’re just like any other addict who has committed a crime against a victim.”

    Thorson had said his goal was is to write another book on the heels of his Behind the Candelabra, which was used as the basis for the HBO film of the same name that won the Golden Globe for best TV movie earlier this month. Matt Damon played Thorson in the film, and Michael Douglas, who donned the flamboyant costumes to play Liberace, claimed his fourth Golden Globe for his work.

    Deputy District Attorney John Helzer said in urging prison time in September that Thorson had been trying to capitalize on his fame since he told arresting officers last year he couldn’t afford the bad publicity of going to jail.

    “He’s not a celebrity. He’s a story,” Helzer said. “It’s one of accusation and manipulation and failure.”

     
    • localarts 10:28 am on January 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      It wouldn’t have mattered if the judge had given him ten chances, Thorson will probably die in prison.

    • criticextraordinaire 9:35 pm on January 31, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I wonder if Eddie has any guys on the inside who could get to him?

      • John 8:30 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        We must remember, Fast Eddie beat that rap. He got the last laugh once again, that teflon bad ass!

        • localarts 10:13 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink

          It’s easy to beat the rap in California. Ed Nash was just another in a long list of high profile cases that walked…pretty sad when you think about it.

    • localarts 7:25 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I’m sure he does. Eddie will be 85 this year that in its self is amazing… With his age, I doubt he cares anymore or even remembers who Thorson is.

      • criticextraordinaire 8:49 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yea Eddie’s the man. I wish HBO or one od the studios would do a biopic on him. Ronnie too.

      • John W 12:10 pm on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Criticx and localarts… And all readers. Some company has greenlighted the process to pursue and vent a certain movie script based on Ron Launius’ life. Just FYI, I’ll keep ya posted. Also coming next week, a certain Brady Bunch cast member partied… Well, you’ll have to wait n see!!

        • criticextraordinaire 1:44 pm on February 1, 2014 Permalink

          AWESOME NEWS, John. I’ve been waiting for something like this for ages. 🙂

        • John 9:10 am on February 2, 2014 Permalink

          This film group is out of Austin, Texas. More to come!

    • localarts 3:14 pm on February 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I just can’t imagine how accurate any movie about Launius would be. I know Roger Jacobs said Launius was alleged to have been involved in 27 murders while at the same time other news articles have quoted police as saying Ron Launius was nothing more than a “trouble maker” I think launius was discharged in 1972 went to federal prison in 74 transferred to LA in 77 and released in 78. Ron Launius had 4.5 to 5 year window between 72 & 81 to rack up that body count.

      You would think that if someone who was murdered were themselves involved in 27 murders, it would have been highly publicized.

  • John 8:17 am on January 23, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Read First Chapter Of Thorson’s “Behind The Candelabra” 

    You can probably find this book at any used bookstore for a buck or two, but in the meantime – check out the first chapter. Besides, how are you gonna keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen Liberace’s house!

    On November 11, 1918, headlines around, the globe trumpeted: PEACE! World War I, the war to end all wars, had come to an end. American doughboys were headed home and with them came a new sophistication, a new worldview. A popular song posed the question, “How’re you gonna keep them down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree?”

    There would be no keeping the boys who fought their way across Europe “down on the farm.” America was poised on the brink of an urban explosion that would be fueled by a technical revolution. Women abandoned their hobble skirts, became flappers, and emerged as a new social force. A booming economy and increased leisure time helped popularize new diversions like movies and radio. Flickering figures on a theater screen and electronically amplified voices coming from crystal tubes right in the living room pushed vaudeville to the brink of extinction. The entertainment industry would never be the same. All these events would have an effect on Liberace’s future.

    His birthplace, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, was a quiet backwater which didn’t respond quickly to the great events a home and abroad. Local farmers and men who worked the Great Lakes shipping trade still counted the weather more important than events overseas. The majority of the people descended from German immigrants; God-fearing, churchgoing, hardworking Lutherans who relaxed on weekends drinking the beer for which their city was famous. In the early years of the twentieth century, Milwaukee was a quiet, conservative community, an unlikely birthplace for the man who would call himself “Mr. Show Business.” Lee would never feel he belonged there.

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