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  • John 6:18 pm on May 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bonnie, clyde   

    Bonnie & Clyde Death Site 

    I stopped by here today. Very isolated spot, the stone marker gets shot at, chipped at by vandals or fans. The bronze monument plaque has been stolen more than once.

    85 years ago… this was the site of the brutal carnage:

    • localarts 5:58 pm on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Nice bit of history. Local police showed no mercy, thats for sure!

    • criticextraordinaire 4:09 pm on June 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Bonnie and Clyde were murdered in an ambush. Hey, I am not complaining about that, because they were brutally violent criminals who had snuffed something like 9 cops during their crime spree. Bonnie and Clyde were the real deal, the OG’s of their day.

      Nevertheless, their having been gunned down in an ambush/trap with immense overkill is hardly something to be erecting a celebratory marker for the cops involved.

      • localarts 8:57 am on June 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I think the monuments are a reflection of their infamous notoriety. The cops brought out the big guns for those two…. Browning Automatics!

        • criticextraordinaire 5:44 pm on June 7, 2018 Permalink

          Indeed, and a fitting choice of weapon. Bonnie and Clyde were also partial to the BAR.

      • Rimbaudgrl 6:35 pm on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        Yeah the ambush thing sux. Its something that was used alot in those days. Dillinger was ambushed the same way. Actually even worse. The feds never even told the local cops he was in town. Why? Because they planned to kill him all along. I mean damn! Shot him in the back. Thats a bitch move

      • Jason 7:46 am on August 20, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        Everyone must remember that cops of that era were not trained as they are today. Imagine your father simply grabbing his gun & his friends and trying to put the cuffs on John Gotti or some other murderous person. Your dad likely wouldn’t be coming home. The cops did their jobs and stopped the two violent criminals in the only way they knew how.

        There was an interesting documentary on this case recently in which the decedents of B&C were interviewed. Neither family member blamed the cops & I recall one comment was that B&C were “NOT living a glorified life but a life he wouldn’t want to have to live…. hiding every moment, living out of their car, sleeping outside….”

    • Jason 7:52 am on August 20, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Hey John,
      You’re doing what I’d Iike to do and you’re blogging about it. Interesting. I was going to stop by this
      monument a couple of years ago but my trip timing didn’t allow for it.

      I’ve also visited infamous sites as you do…. for example…. along with a friend, I visited the property of
      the infamous Sharon Tate mass murder house (Charles Manson) in L.A. before it was bulldozed and rebuilt. I sat on the hill behind it and observed the exterior grounds where some of the deaths happened (A.Folger) and the tremendous view of downtown L.A. that the property owner / residents had. A relative of mine worked near that location and told me her coworkers who lived nearby could hear the screaming & phoned police but due to canyon echoes… could not identify where the screams were coming from.

    • localarts 5:18 pm on September 24, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      For those of you that don’t like to read, Wondery has the whole Wonderland saga on audio podcast. I must say, it’s pretty good. Some of the narration made me feel as though I was standing in Eddie’s sunken living room watching the robbery go down. The description of Joy Miler’s injuries are chilling! Joy did not deserve to die lie this. Neither did Barbara. Here’s the link:

      • localarts 8:13 pm on September 24, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I forgot to mention, there’s also a great interview with Lange & Souza.

        • John 4:41 pm on January 29, 2019 Permalink

          That is a great podcast, localarts. They keep the story straight. The interview w Tom and Bob rocks also.
          I have been busy tracking down the surviving Launius family

    • localarts 11:16 am on February 7, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Seems like everyone involved with Wonderland had a very negative opinion of Holmes as a person, no big surprise there. Good luck getting anyone from the Launius family to open up. Maybe Rick? I think I mentioned a long time ago that one of the papers interviewed him right after the murders, can’t remember which one. If memory serves; Rick said the last time he saw Ronnie was in January or February “81 and Ronnie appeared to be very sick. Dope sick? Agent orange sick? Who know’s… I think he also said he didn’t see much of Ronnie after his release from prison. I think he said Ronnie was transferred to some local detention center in LA before he was released in “78. Wish I knew where that article was.

      Anyway, it’s 2019 and this blog marches on as it should!

  • John 10:15 am on May 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    Origins and predecessors of the Cuckoo’s Nest: the long road from playhouse, to LSD-biker bar, to the Nest 

    For those punk rock fans… who still dream of anarchy and all that happy horseshit…

    Suburban Struggle: the Campaign to Suppress Punk in Costa Mesa, California (1978-1981)

    The Cuckoo’s Nest, founded in 1976, was a music venue tucked away in a commercial-industrial area in the City of Costa Mesa, situated in the heart of Orange County, California.

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  • John 7:06 am on May 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    Rainbow Drive (1990 Film) 

    This cool 1990 cop suspense film was allegedly (very) loosely based on Roderick Thorp’s fiction novel, which was loosely based on the Wonderland murders. It was produced during the Nash-Diles trials and stars Peter Weller and the lovely Sela Ward. The smooth and tingly soundtrack was done by Tangerine Dream.

    After a brutal multiple murder in the Hollywood hills, an L.A. cop runs into a wall of police corruption (sound familiar?). At times, I thought it was just a cheap rip-off of Lethal Weapon or To Live and Die in L.A…so it has that same style and those lush synthesizer keyboards and silky saxophones… so I couldn’t stop watching.

    I found the old paperback for 99 cents and it’s coming in the mail.


  • John 9:50 am on May 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: bill deverrell,   

    Interview With Kevin DeVerrell 

    For those visitors and new arrivals who missed it…

    From March, 2014. (My SoundCloud homepage and main menu)

    Thanks again to Kevin for talking to me. It was great to meet him in 2016 when he came to Houston. Like many relatives of the victims in this tragedy, he went and made a great life for he and his family. I tip my cap…

  • John 8:56 pm on May 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    Wonderland Interview With Nils Grevillius 

    With the few hundred posts on the blog, viewers may not have seen this, as I get a few emails periodically from folks asking related questions that are not answered in the written record of books and articles. So if you are somewhat new to this blog, and can get past all of my yeahs and umm-hmms, then you may find my old 2014 telephone interview with crime author and private investigator, Nils Grevillius, interesting. As you may or may not know, Nils collaborated with Tom Lange & Bob Souza in the 1990s on the legendary, original and unpublished true crime book, titled Four on the Floor.

    Nils could have a book written about his interesting career, but if you want to check out his writing catalogue, visit his Amazon author page. Don’t forget to read his amazing bio of adventures.

    This is a 35-minute discussion and sadly due to technical difficulties, about 15 mins were lost. Hey I’m not Art Bell.

    In two parts – but part two should play through automatically. My SoundCloud main menu)

    Adjust your volume…

  • John 9:59 am on May 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    Their Million Dollar Defects 

    The bulk of an article I found from 1931 discussing the attributes of Hollywood starlets… it’s quite interesting. I do not have the rest of it. So enjoy~

    • Macy Grant 9:21 am on June 11, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      That looks like the New Yorker, since you know the date you can look up the rest of it online, but it’s by subscription.

  • John 9:51 am on May 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    The Nash Again 

    Mr. Handsome is back…

    Thanks to Sal for the image.

  • John 11:38 am on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    Nash-Owned Joints In L.A. Yellow Pages, c. 1980 

    Only a few are his, not all of these were his… just to clarify.

    Before the interwebs, we had to use these things. Anyone remember calling the movie theatres back then and the person read the movies & showtimes to you (pre-dating the recorded message answering machine).. I remember also asking, “Who’s in that?” ..or “What’s that one about?”  🙂  I also had to walk 10 miles to school in tbe snow.

    BTW, Nash first opened his file with the FBI in 1950s. He was buddies with legendary Vegas gangster, Mo Davitz. The Wonderland scofflaw, an L.A. fence & loan shark, “Fat Howard” Cook, first arrived on their known-hoodlum program radar in 1976 – among other things, for getting mob guys half-price airline tickets via stolen credit cards and free shit like household appliances & microwave ovens. Top-level gang bosses were wealthy, but they displayed great excitement over swag like that and on wiretaps would go on and on about a free KitchenAid blender. Howard Cook is deceased now and so has been on their dead list for decades. But Nash even tricked the men in black, and was not even on a more recent FBI dead list I found. So even in death, the slippery Nash fooled them with his secret passing (not that they cared at that point since he was old and out of the game, but still).

  • John 10:54 am on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: evidence,   

    Forensics & Criminal Cases 

    I found this neat graphic on Pinterest, which is a pretty cool app for crime & music history, old photos etc … I used to think Pinterest was only for products and household stuff my sister wanted to buy.

  • John 9:42 am on April 29, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    July 4, 1981 L.A. News Update On Wonderland 

    Re-post… for those who have not seen it. Note: The voiceover lady refers to the massacre as a shooting.

    Evening edition – Laurel Erikson reporting from Cedars-Sinai…


    • smauge 6:13 pm on April 29, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I love old news reports on historic events, but I’ve found reports on this hard to find. This one is a ripper, thanks for posting!

      • localarts 1:01 pm on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        If we only had some vintage footage of Beder Clifton slapping the cuffs on Launius!

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